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To: BGR who wrote (18026)	4/15/2003 1:32:49 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 19079

Please correct me if I am wrong. You are wrong, because some companies like Hewlett Packard for example are forced (by whatever agency enforces this) to show that their employee base is diverse. Depts are simply not allowed by management to hire all white candidates, there is a stipulation at the group level wrt "diversity targets". HP is in this boat, because it was proven in the past that they discriminated against women at some point in their existance. I think it was in the 70s that all this happened. Now that cpq is a part of HP, they probably are going to have to go through their employee pool and deal with any non-diverse (mostly white) depts that cpq had. If there are too many whites, and HPQ has a layoff, they will remove the white americans. As far as I know, the diversity targets at HP are specifically "non white". In other words you probably could hire a totally indian team, or a completely chinese team and still be within the legal limits, but it would look bad so I don't think anybody would do this. Not sure though. At other companies who never discriminated in the past, these rules do not apply. Nonetheless, management at Cisco or wherever is usually aware of the HP situation and tries to avoid getting in the same soup at the onset. White managers have a sense that they shouldn't hire all whites. Oracle is a rare exception to the typical hiring practices of an american company. They never cared about their people at oracle, this is true. They violate personnel laws all the time at Oracle and have been found guilty occassionally in court (remember when Oracle fired that pregnant VP and she won a few million). Most companies wouldn't be so bold as to hire more indians than americans in the USA. Only oracle has the gall to do this. It isn't illegal, but it doesn't look good. Foreign nationals come here and have no knowledge of this history of employment laws, and I am aware of some departments at major american companies where overt discrimination goes on by foreign nationals in hiring positions towards hiring only employees from their own country of origin. The IT dept at applied materials is like this, for example. I don't like it, because I don't have the same freedom to hire who I want, the people I am most likely to "hang with" and become friends with (other americans). I have no doubt an entire indian workforce that is located in the US can do the same job as an american workforce. But if I am going to feel like hiring all whites will be frowned upon, then why should hiring all indians be ok?