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To: Steeliejim who wrote (19411)4/15/2003 9:26:30 PM
From: Warpfactor  Respond to of 23153
 
<<I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron, . . . .>>

What was it about people who resort to name-calling ???

<<I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you want to have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons. >>

Hitler did not possess weapons of mass destruction.

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To: Steeliejim who wrote (19411)4/16/2003 7:10:56 AM
From: chowder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
Steelie Jim,

Nice to see you pal! I'm glad you stopped by. Don't stay away so long.

Now, let's have some fun with your Canadian piece.

>>> I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. <<<

You should be. He's the most educated President we've ever had. Probably more educated than any Prime Minister as well. You may not agree with his strategies, but a moron, he's not.

>>> I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. <<<

Well, I'm not! In the world of sales we say be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. We asked, you gave. Now what was that about being a moron?

>>> I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. <<<

I'm sorry too. You guys are good. Credit where credit is deserved. We'll just have to keep trying harder I suppose. As to your franchises, our currency and tax laws, as horrible as they are, still allow our players to net more money. Sorry! Now what was that about being a moron?

>>> I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, <<<

Yeah, we were coming out of a depression and we were isolationists at the time. We weren't particularly interested in fighting others battles but, when the time came, we did the right thing because it was the right thing to do. We Americans know we're going to make mistakes, our heritage calls for us to learn from them and step up to the plate. The end result was we kicked ass like no ass had ever been kicked before. Now, if we can just translate that to hockey!

>>> I'm sorry we burnt down your White House during the War of 1812. <<<

You're forgiven. Just don't let it happen again. Learn from your mistakes, as discussed above.

>>> I'm sorry for Alan Thicke, Shania Twain, Celine Dion, Loverboy, that song from Seriff that ends with a really high-pitched long note. <<<

So are we. However, as friends, we'll overlook your shortcomings.

>>> Your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer, but we feel your pain. <<<

You guys have beer? Damn, I didn't know that. I'm sorry for my ignorance. I remember seeing some great beer commercials a few years ago. Something about 2 guys and a moose? Funny stuff!

>>> I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a thinly veiled criticism. <<<

Then quit your bitching and get on board. If your country or economy were on the verge of destruction, we'd be the first ones you'd call on. We'd be there for you too because that's what friends do.

>>> I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. Because we've seen what you do to countries you get upset with. <<<

We're not too upset with you. But keep it up and we'll find a way to kick your ass at hockey. Then you'll have nothing of fame to claim.

You're loving and mostly understanding neighbors.

da-Americans



To: Steeliejim who wrote (19411)4/16/2003 11:30:36 AM
From: kodiak_bull  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23153
 
Steeliejim,

Your Canadian piece has me puzzled. If you post it you must have found it: insightful, provocative, valuable, intelligent, humorous or delightful. Which was it?

I mostly found it incorrect. Bush may mangle words, but anyone who can handle these times and situations and keep coming out on top (the China snafu, 9/11 and its aftermath, Afghanistan, now Iraq, the midterm elections) has to be intelligent enough to hire good people and make good decisions. And of enough moral fiber to keep good people around him. As for his education, somebody made a list of about 12 Hollywood critics: Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, Cher, etc. and noted that George W. had more education than all of them combined. Martin Sheen plays a Ph.D president on TV but did he even go to college? Nope, not even a semester. So we basically get "wisdom" from a kid whose last bit of learning was some blue collar high school in Dayton, Ohio. I think if you're going to mistake an actor for the part, instead of thinking that Martin Sheen could be a Ph.D in economics, let's assume that Sean Penn could actually be a retarded adult.

"I'm sorry about our softwood lumber."

Well, the environmental devastation of the Crown Lands and the selling off of the Northwest forests at firesale prices is a tragedy, but it's for Canada to deal with down the road. Our mills will close but after the Canadian fir and spruce is gone we'll keep building houses with the Russian stuff. The Japanese used a complex national subsidy for years to "get market share" and "drive their competitors out of business" and it's gotten them a 12 year recession/depression. The same recipe will yield the same cake for the Canadians, except they will, as always, be able to hitch a ride to the US economy, which will probably ameliorate the problem.

I thought it was the British who burnt the White House in 1812, and now I find out it's the Canucks.

As for beer, I really don't know what the guy is talking about. I suppose he'd like to say that Molsons or Edmonton's Best tastes sooooo much better than Bud, but I wouldn't drink any of that swill. Now, if he's got a beer that's superior to Deschutes Black Butte Porter (Oregon), I'd like to hear about it. I tasted some micro brews last year in Victoria; they were fine, but nothing to ship home.

Again, with Hitler, I thought it was the British who were in it for 2 years before us, but I guess it was the Canadians. How many troops did the Canadians bring to bear on Adolph and Benito? Were they making any progress? Funny thing, FDR did everything in his power to save Britain (France, of course, fell apart faster than a cardboard suitcase in a thundershower, tant pis) while trying to find a way to convince the US, for the 2nd time in less than 30 years, that we had to throw away American lives (almost half a million this time) to stop something that European boulevardier appeasement crowd failed to even notice. I guess they were all too busy yucking it up, smoking Gauloises and wearing berets and making fun of American tourists (aka "meal tickets").

Finally, the "I'm sorry for apologizing for things in a passive/aggressive" way thing. Yeah, I noticed that on my last trip to Canada. Like the French, Canadians seem so envious of the US, its power, its ability, but are sooooo impotent and resentful. Kind of like the bitter first wife. Most talented and resourceful Canadians find their way here to make a living and stay here; it seems (certainly from reading the Canadian newspapers) that it's just the junior varsity there at home. The US must seem like the goal in "New York, New York": if you can make it there (the US), then you can make it anywhere. All the major Canadian cities just end up being smallish North American cities with bad weather. Realistically, which city is more important: Portland Oregon or Toronto? Kind of a toss up, isn't it?

Kb