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To: Clappy who wrote (25586)	4/16/2003 10:53:43 AM
From: Mannie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 104155

Claps with Crickets.. I was really astounded when I saw the ratings, Fox crushed the other networks. I'm amazed. Fox is like listening to the home team announcer at football game. Or maybe Wrestlemania.... I've never felt so out of step.

To: Clappy who wrote (25586)	4/16/2003 11:03:20 AM
From: abuelita	Respond to of 104155

This tells me that we don't seem to be getting any closer to the public seeing this for what it really is. unfortunately, very true. the average american is swallowing it hook, line and sinker. i've never seen a propaganda machine work before. this one is so well orchestrated ... so convincing. people want to think they are good and they are doing the right and honourable thing and that's what they're being told and that's what they want to hear, so they believe it. they actually BELIEVE it. it is really frightening. i read this today: In 1953, a democratically elected Iranian government that had nationalized the Iranian oil industry (and endured economic sanctions imposed by the British) was toppled by a joint CIA- and British secret service-staged coup d'état. The Shah, who had earlier watched the falling of his statues and had fled the country, was brought back by the coup organizers. Among the first agenda items put in front of him by the Americans and British was to settle the oil affair. Immediately, a consortium of oil companies took over Iran's nationalized oil. This time, British Petroleum got only 40 per cent of the shares; for the first time, the U.S. oil companies got 40 per cent. The rest was divided between Royal Dutch/Shell and the French CFP." why won't american's believe it's about oil and always has been and always will be? maybe they do. maybe they think that it's okay. globeandmail.ca hoser