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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (17383)	4/16/2003 2:25:12 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Got a link to your figure? No way that many were killed (Iraqi troops) in 91.

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (17383)	4/16/2003 8:07:46 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

"what is the matter, Tim? is that 80,000 dead Iraqi soldiers lying in the desert seeming tough as an image to ponder?" Actually no. I cannot substantiate Iraqi military death totals anywhere near that number, including Schwarzkopf's alleged claims. Nothing I've found from the left or the right comes close to the numbers you've cited. I think that the number of Iraqi military deaths estimated by multiple sources to be startlingly low. Perhaps more Iraqi soldiers ran after bombing began & their leaders & the Fedayeen Saddam ran, then soldiers also ran when they had little chance of being shot for desertion. Evidence of this happening is growing. No, it didn't happen everywhere, but it seems to have happened often where JDAM's & other smart bombs fell. And that's where significant numbers of soldiers were located. In any event, I am deeply saddened by all deaths from this war, no matter the final number. War is Hell! It still does not change my opinion one iota. It was a just war. It was a legal war. It was the right thing to do because Iraq & several unethical, immoral countries would not allow diplomacy to work because of their own direct complicity, illegal actions & financial interests. It was their own immoral & unethical self interest that insured this war occurred. Bush took care of Job #1. The protection & security of US citizens here & abroad. The number killed in this war will never approach the number slaughtered by the Butcher of Baghdad. It will be but an insignificant fraction of the nearly 2 million men, women & children the Butcher of Baghdad is responsible for killing. And that doesn't include the hundreds of thousands who were raped, tortured & imprisoned unjustly. Nor the vast majority of Iraqi's intentionally kept in abysmal poverty while a select few prospered. Saddam's reign of terror & the slaughter of his own people is now over & 24 million people are free to choose their own destiny. I am immensely glad about that. Nothing from this politically biased, intellectually dishonest blogosphere has changed my opinion one tiny bit. ____________________________________________________________ ....Arkin would only say that the Iraqi military losses <in this war> would be in the “many thousands.” But he predicted the total would be lower than in the first Gulf War when 10,000 to 15,000 Iraqi military deaths occurred. In the Gulf War, 300,000-plus Iraqi soldiers exiled in the desert were bombed by U.S. and coalition forces for 39 days with 10 times as many weapons as have been used so far in this war, he said. “There is no way to do the math and get to the number (of Iraqi soldiers) killed in 1991,” he said. militarycity.com