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To: Condor who wrote (94075)4/16/2003 11:25:22 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
Canada? Who mentioned Canada?


I know you are warming up your "Black Helicopter."

lindybill@comingtotakemeaway.com



To: Condor who wrote (94075)4/17/2003 1:17:07 AM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
OT~ Condor, LB was joking....but then I hope you know that by now...

Actually, and sincerely, both Canadians and Americans can learn from each other. Hopefully the good things. <g>

BTW, one thing has been clear to me since FADG started...we've lived in the Eastern US, and spent time in and near Montreal and Toronto... and now living in the NW for years, have spent lots more time in Vancouver and Victoria. In fact, could give guided tours to the natives...another grin.

BUT what I discovered through the FADG experience is in fact, the folks in Quebec are MUCH more French in actions and thoughts, and the folks in BC are MUCH more like the English folks. We've had lots of folks from England visit us on business and pleasure, but I hadn't really realized the difference in Canadians until the FADG experience.



To: Condor who wrote (94075)4/17/2003 1:18:30 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Meanwhile, back in the Sand Trap."

Golf War
America masters the world, while a Canadian wins the Masters.

BY CHRISTINA SPENCER
Thursday, April 17, 2003 12:01 a.m.

OTTAWA--Golf, as anyone knows, is a metaphor for life. So when Mike Weir won the Masters on Sunday, the first Canadian ever to do so, among those loudly singing his praises was Canada's prime minister, who made time during a trip to the Dominican Republic to telephone Mr. Weir and convey his euphoria. "We were cheering. We were toasting you. You're so cool and so good, we were jumping in the room when you won," Jean Chrétien told Mr. Weir.

So what's the metaphor? In the eyes of many Canadians, Mike Weir didn't merely defeat an American golfer: He defeated America.

Preoccupied by international events, most Americans have not noticed that their good relations with the Canucks have sunk faster than a golf ball splashing down in a pond. The ones whose wild swing caused this calamity were the Canadians.

You might think that Canada--with its significant trade links to the U.S., close cultural ties and, yes, mutual interest in winning the war against terrorism--would have joined the dozens of countries in the so-called coalition of the willing that supported, or at least didn't oppose, war in Iraq. Given our past relationship, the U.S. might even have expected from Canada the clear and principled support it got from, say, Australia, a country to which Canadians often compare themselves........

...So now you know why the prime minister was so ebullient over Mike Weir's win. Never mind that the American military has swept through Iraq. Canada has shown the Americans who is boss where it really counts: on the putting greens of a great nation. Official relations are in tatters, but the Canadians have beaten swords into sand wedges, and thus emerged triumphant.

Ms. Spencer is a former editorial pages editor of the Ottawa Citizen.

opinionjournal.com