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To: da_cheif™ who wrote (161)4/17/2003 1:31:35 PM
From: velociraptor_  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3432
 
I have already seen that chart. I am looking for data back to 1930 or so.



To: da_cheif™ who wrote (161)4/17/2003 2:28:52 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw  Respond to of 3432
 
you pointed out an excellent issue with many indicators.

there seem to be an awful lot of people using indicators whose construction they don't understand at all. some of the predictions i see being made based on eg buried oscillators - RSI, stochs, etc - are genuinely frightening.



To: da_cheif™ who wrote (161)4/17/2003 5:44:49 PM
From: velociraptor_  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3432
 
Your arguement regarding the A/D line is flawed in both time and price depending on your perspective. Think about it...5 days up, 5 pennies a day and 1 day down 3 points. Over all, price goes down, down down, but the A/D line rises. In fact, even in a bear market, the down waves are likely to be more impulsive and sharper while the up moves take longer in time and are corrective. That means more up days (or weeks) than down and again you have positive bias for the A/D line while the market continues to be in a bear with a down trend intact. Since bear markets are statistically only 38% of the time of a bull market, again you have a time bias to the positive and should see more upward bias in the A/D even taking into consideration the correctives in a bull. Overall, the A/D line will likely always have a positive bias and the longer the time frame you use, the more it gets smoothed out towards the positive bias simply because bull moves are statistically longer in duration. A monthly A/D will smooth out even more of the correctives and would probably not even register bear market correctives lasting several years. The larger the time frame, the more you will hide the detail of what is going on for the current period. The daily A/D in this respect becomes more important then the weekly.

Regardless, I think it is irrelevant whether you look at it in a daily time frame or a weekly time frame anyway, because as stated, upward moves are always favored over time, but not necessarily in price, especially during a bear market. And when you get a bear market of long lasting duration, you'll only end up staring at a rising A/D line while price continues to erode over time because the down moves will be sharper and quick while the up moves will be more numerous but shallow.

Overall, I think using the A/D line at all for confirmation of either a bull or bear market is a waste of time and meaningless.