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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (31894)4/19/2003 2:26:25 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Malcolm, members.shaw.ca There are heaps of links in Google. It's not a theory untested in reality. The Flynn Effect is real. <Below are the rates of IQ gain per year for different locations as found by James R. Flynn in Massive IQ Gains in 14 Nations: What IQ Tests Really Measure, Psychological Bulletin, 1987, Vol. 101, No. 2, pp. 171-191. The tables are adapted from Table 15 of that paper. In culturally reduced (non-verbal) tests there is minimal reliance on learned content. Other tests only assess verbal (learned) IQ. But the most famous tests examine both. For example, the Wechsler tests have both a ‘Performance’ scale and a ‘Verbal’ scale . Flynn found the highest gains in the culturally reduced tests. The lowest gains were in verbal tests. >

Maybe a few presidents had good speech writers. We are considering averages and distribution, not anecdotes about a few bright people who specialized in language.

Mqurice



To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (31894)4/19/2003 3:04:44 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
<I still don't believe in the Flynn effect because I've never seen the data and have nevfer encountered a reference to the data. >

Not to poooh poooh science, as it is a noble pursuit; but there IS plenty of it, all nicely documented an peer reviewed, that turned out not to be. And of course even more that turned out to not 'prove' or be useful for what it was meant to.

dAK