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To: greenspirit who wrote (94925)	4/19/2003 12:05:33 PM
From: Sig	Respond to of 281500

<<<Radical Islam needs to go through its "reformation". The process can start from the top, from the bottom, or from an outside entity. But begin it must. How the Iraqi government is formed, how it evolves, and how it ensures basic human rights for its citizens, will be a watershed event if pulled off successfully.>>> It will be fascinating to see what happens in that area, whether those who call for a Jihad against the entire world get ex-communicated. On thing puzzles me- why is it the leaders like Saddam and OBL are so determined to stay around and enjoy earthly pleasures, rather than meet Allah as soon as possible as they contend their vassals should enjoy so much in doing? Sig

To: greenspirit who wrote (94925)	4/19/2003 1:45:18 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

-Despite the marches in Baghdad, my instinct tells me they will pull it off. A democracy in the heart of the Middle East will change so much over time. Agreed. The US is making a good start in setting the right tone. It's not offering too much at the beginning, in order that we not be taken for granted as "daddy warbucks".. We'll support those groups who show they have the ability and desire to meet our criteria for establishing economic and political change. And while we might be flying Chalabi around, we're making him carry his own water with regard to seeking and developing a following. His only opposition will be the Shia clerics, and something tells me they will "cut a deal" as well with the US. And while I'm somewhat disturbed the looting that has occurred and the seeming lack of preparation for restoring civil order, the cynical side of me is wondering if this was part of the plan. To make the Iraqi people realize that, while the US liberated them, by no means can it be expected to just step in and guarantee social order and tranquility. But we'll support those Iraqi leaders who promise to do just that... If there had been "instant order", then the wrong message might have been conveyed of "don't worry, the US will take care of everything".. Hawk