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To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (236437)4/19/2003 9:45:42 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
as you document only the last 5 years I would like to bring up the last 30 years. At that time I was very open and was looking for true friendship and comradie. It started well including "sleep overs" as teenager do, picnics together etc. ......... only to get disappointed again and again in later years.

True to the facts there are many who jumped ship and see their religion as a heritage and adopted more universal ways. Those individuals are the hope of harmony in the future, but unfortunate they are a small group shuned from their own people.

Finally I started to read more and learn about the customs, religion social order and the way of thinking and their perceiving the world.

More so during the last 2 years I read more about conflicts in other parts of the world and I am sorry to admit that without some major changes there is little hope to avoid a conflict of civilizations.

The present war in Iraq may pave a way for modernizing the religion separate it from the state and social order and frame it in similar ways that the Western societies refer to their own religion in a liberal way - as a tradition and heritage.

Diversity makes a fascinating world but when religion conceived thousand years ago and modified to the need of tyrants, that religion fails to serves it's believers and produce societies who will find fault with every thing not in line to the "rayis teaching".

and that is the sad part I could go on and on but as I posted earlier on SI the article about the "Milestones" and the view of "perfect society" and description of the "enourmous human problems" of the Egyptian Sayyid Qutb who kissed his and it's connection to the pan arabism of Abdul Nasser made to conclude that without a drastic change there is little chance of change and we witness the Crusader period again in an asymmetrical situation, were the so called "Crusaders" have abandoned their religious zeal and realized that a happy citizenry is good for life and business and oppression or religious zeal are things of the past.

"There is no real sense of loss in their death since they continue to live" and therefore Qutb kissed the gallows



To: Box-By-The-Riviera™ who wrote (236437)4/19/2003 10:15:41 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
not a bad attempt, but i wasn't being anywhere near that subtle. to put it bluntly, he sounds like a craig crawford in reverse.