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To: Kaliico who wrote (86365)	4/21/2003 9:10:39 AM
From: Arrow Hd.	Respond to of 208838

Kaliico, and all, thanks for the advice on how to eliminate these pop-ups and messenger blurbs. It is driving me nuts. If I could actually track this stuff back to its source I think I would sue someone. Unfortunately, while going through all the links and threads on the topic I found out that Win 98 can't be altered to eliminate the messenger file like you can with NT, 2000 and some others. Maybe thats the hidden agenda here with Microsoft, don't do anything to stop it so everyone upgrades from 95 and 98 to be able to eliminate the pop-up garbage which is really a kind of theft of your system's capabilities. When it hooks into your system sometimes it is so pervasive I have to log off just to clean things up. Log back on and within minutes its back. Any solutions or suggestions would be very much appreciated. This is one of the threads I lurk on and like the dialogue so thanks to you all for your measured thoughts.

To: Kaliico who wrote (86365)	4/21/2003 9:25:33 AM
From: WhatsUpWithThat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 208838

Internet Explorer, by default, is set to prompt you to permit or deny the download of an ActiveX control the first time, in the Internet zone. See Tools/Options/Security, the Internet Zone tab, Custom Settings button. You can set it to never allow ActiveX control downloads, but if you have to agree the first time for each I can't see any purpose in setting it to Deny. The behaviour of what is described isn't much different than receving an e-mail that looks like it comes from your computer department, or IBM or Norton, that says you've been infected and have to visit site ZZZ. The attack is an example of human engineering (ie. try to trick the person), and can be foiled easily by being cautious about unexplained messages. The Messenger service has been in NT for 6/7 years now, long before spam and pop-ups, and responsible for neither, IMO. Regards, WUWT Regards WUWT