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To: Bridge Player who wrote (33285)4/21/2003 9:58:40 PM
From: SteeliejimRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 118717
 
Thanks for your response. You proved my points about the nastiness and intolerance of the right (tight?) wing.

Amazing how the right has managed to marginalize everyone but those who agree with them to make even the word "moderate" a dirty word. The slogans are right out of the Rush Play book, and the tactics are right out of Goebbels, who said that a lie, told often enough, becomes "truth." The ignorance displayed by those unwilling to even examine an alternate viewpoint, or that excess, either right or left, is bad, is stunning--and more than a little scary.

<<And you bet I listen to Rush. Not every day, but enough to know that he is an outstanding
source for truth and facts about the bs that the left spews out.>>

Now there's a real hoot, and pretty sad.

Just one of the recent "truths" according to Rush (last Friday I believe) was his belittling of the loss resulting from the looting of the Baghdad museum. He said that the claim that the museum held some of civilization's earliest treasures (about 8000 years old) couldn't be true since humans' beginnings can be traced back much earlier to "Lucy" in Africa. He pretended he didn't know the difference between the origin of man and the beginnings of civilization. Therefore, according to his "logic," the museum's holdings couldn't be that important.

But I suspect that he actually did know the difference, since, as you admit, his ditto-heads accept everything he says as "truth," and it served his purpose to undermine critics' complaints (pesky liberals' "bs" again) over the looting. BTW, how do you like being considered to be that stupid by Rush that he doesn't think you know the difference?

As for the map of the states voting for Bush, the right wingers love to show the unconstitutional and silly version of the election results so that they can try to get people to forget that Gore won more votes than Bush. "Tell a lie often enough..." Just more evidence of the class warfare and the politics of division practiced by the right wing and the disdain they have for the Constitution and anyone who doesn't agree with them.

"Those liberal city folk don't count." "Screw the majority of voters (who voted for Gore)." "The second term is when some things actually might get done in this country (your words)." Looks like another contract ON America (ala Newt Gingrich circa 1994) is on it's way--as again, you confirm.

As for the next election, Bush might very well get reelected--thanks to 9/11, his Wag the Dog war, and whatever adventures he might order our brave young service men and women into to keep our minds off the mess this administration has made of our economy, international relations, and environment.

But, as in 1994, the right has a tendency to shoot itself in its collective feet with its nastiness and intolerance ("Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.")
Hopefully, the majority of people will wake up and repudiate the excesses of the right before too much more damage is done.

<<That there is no
market for those views in the heartland? Did you ever think that maybe conservative talk
radio is successful is because that's where the country is?>> Where the country is? Oh bull.

I've already answered that. Hateful right wingers would make the lives of moderate talk show hosts and their sponsors a living hell.

But here's more. Moderates, by nature, are inclusive and believe that people who have the country's interests at heart can solve problems by collaboration and looking for win-win solutions irrespective of party. It's hard work and takes intellect and patience, not the bullying practiced by the right.

That's strength, not weakness. It doesn't make for quick sound bites or good entertainment. It also doesn't satisfy the agenda of the right wingers, who view everything--as Rush has admitted frequently--in terms of defeating Democrats or even moderate Republicans.

The views expressed by right wing talk are stated in black and white and play into the fears, prejudices and bigotry of the fans. eg. Bin Laden=evil. Therefore, Islam (all of it)=evil.



To: Bridge Player who wrote (33285)4/21/2003 11:14:07 PM
From: WhatsUpWithThatRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 118717
 
"Trash talk" has lowered the quality of sports as well as politics. It advances neither.

WUWT