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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (95399)	4/21/2003 6:35:25 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

When you assume that conciliatory efforts will fail, that leaves you with only violence as a method. It would be conciliatory if Israel stopped the settlement building. It would not be conciliatory for the US to come in and try to impose terms on one or both parties. And there is ample proof that "violence begets violence". There is also ample proof that concessions made in response to violence often beget more violence. After all the violence worked once, maybe it will work again. Tim

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (95399)	4/21/2003 7:00:28 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

That was exactly the attitude of many Israelis and Americans, about the Egyptians, for decades. What Nasser said and did, wasn't much different from Arafat. Yet a "land for peace" deal was made, both sides compromised, and the peace (or at least, non-war) has held for 20+ years now. In both cases enemies made peace. Yet there the similarities end. Sadat (Nasser died in 1970) kept the Egyptian side of the peace. It was a cold peace, but it held. You do not see reports of the Egyptian army shooting artillery into Israel, or sending fedayeen into Israel to blow up buses and cafes, or acting as a launch pad for others to do so. The peace holds because both sides keep the peace. Arafat has reneged on every single bargain he has ever signed, and he totally failed to keep his side of the bargain, the number one principle of which was, stop making war on the Israelis, either overtly or through terrorist groups.