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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (15208)	4/22/2003 3:26:55 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

Yes, additionally, don't forget the "attack" on the russian embassador convoy. Plus the closing of this site, "final letter". The interesting is obviously what Bush promised in return of a shorter, non-city guerilla war. Maybe it will be as it was with the Cuba crises, took 30 years before some info of it was declassifed in USA, although oviously widely known outside. (However, some aspects still seem to classified, waiting until the USA-Cuba relations are normalized) Ilmarinen Ouch, another idiot on Russia and Khrushchev, startin good style booknotes.org booknotes.org "The definitive biography of the mercurial Soviet leader who succeeded and denounced Stalin. Remembered by many as the Soviet leader who banged his shoe at the United Nations, .." It is of course true that "remebered by many", another thing that he never banged a shoe in UN, however, - he used to take off his shoes under the table - the clip showed him banging his hand, but the creative voice said "shoe" Which is why so many TV-viewers could testify to the whole thing and pass any polygraph test, as they actually believe it, have seen it themselves two steadfast hand-claps for lousy propaganda, increasing credibility About comments from the son, Sergei And when he called me up, my hand might have been trembling but he was terrific about it. He talked for three hours about factual errors which he corrected, and I changed, and then he challenged some of my interpretations but he said from the very beginning that these were my interpretations, not his, and that I have to stick to them if I chose to do so and for the most part I did. LAMB: Did he ever quarrel with you about some of the characterizations of Khrushchev? TAUBMAN: Well, he quarreled about things from major to minor. He quarreled, for example, about something that`s minor but it`s very well know, the question about whether he banged his shoe. Sergei believes on the basis of what he`s read and hear that Khrushchev did not bang that shoe on that table at the United Nations. LAMB: When? What year was that? TAUBMAN: That was 1960, September, 1960. And, he had some evidence. I made a point of trying to find out. I found a "New York Times" correspondent who had been in the hall that day and who swears that the shoe was brandished but never banged. That is not a major distinction as historical distinctions go, but I think it`s interesting. I also read an account by a Russian who was there who claims that somebody stepped on Khrushchev`s shoe. It came off and was handed back to him in a napkin, which he then placed on the table. So, under that account he didn`t take it off. He didn`t brandish it and he didn`t bang it. Well, that`s one example of a disagreement. I eventually went with the notion that he banged it. ---- ho-ho... " I eventually went with the notion that he banged it."