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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (95874)	4/24/2003 10:38:17 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

>>I know it's a principle of yours never to admit it<< I have never noticed JohnM making any concessions even when boxed in completely. Inability to make concessions greatly weakens the appeal of intellectual arguments. If you can't persuade the other party or be persuaded yourself, what's the point? Showing off how much you know isn't argument. Nor is lecturing people who either agree with you, or pretend to. Fine disputation requires the occasional concession. In fact, it's considered sportsmanlike to not only concede the occasional point, but compliment your opponent on a particularly nicely done argument.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (95874)	4/24/2003 10:38:32 AM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 281500

I know it's a principle of yours never to admit it, but sometimes the US is not in the wrong - even under the present administration. That characterization is not only untrue but one of your cheaper shots. However we've been over this ground so many times, Nadine, and agreed to disagree at the same point, with the same misunderstanding, that, surely, if there were ever a conversation that should be stopped on FADG, it's the one between you and me on the ICC and Kyoto. Done.