To: Jamey who wrote (35048 ) 4/25/2003 6:33:11 PM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621 You didn't push any of my buttons , and the supreme virtues of "self-righteousness" are all yours ...and the skewed simpleton religiosity that you try and push , that all the disease in the world is caused by sin and someone eating an apple in a garden long ago. And no-one can be saved or healed except by divine intervention and praying to your imaginary "God" in some imaginary heaven ... instead of trying to correct dietary habits , teach basic knowledge of physiology , the therapeutic virtues of understanding oneself and one's past experiences , teaching self-awareness, control , and better healthful ways of living . That in Life itself there are endless chances to regain health and start healing. How interesting it is Santiago , that wherever Christianity went in this world to spread the "gospel" , guilt & alcohol went with it ? And all those poor unfortunates in the world who's lives were just so wicked , wretched , damned & hopeless , found their circumstances so much better improved by all that superstition and holy-rolling nonsense . Whether Jesus the rabbai was resurrrected or not , or whether he came again 70 AD , or you are still waiting for him is all you have bumbled on and on about here , like the asinine fools you and Elect are ...and other religious "God Almighty Themselves" primadonnas . It's enough to discredit Jesus altogether watching you perform here with your endless dogmatic pontificating and religious debates. Was he just another simple mad ... desert wandering holy-rolling Jewish rabbai drama-queen , with illusions of grandeur and speaking for "God" , like you yourselves seem to be 2000 yrs later ? You who are -----> the "chosen ones" and the Elect ? Intollerance has been your middlenames , and the smug air of superiority of being "The Saved " and "The Most Righteous" has been your hallmark for many many centuries, starting back in Rome , and the rest is history.In the future please stick to comments about your travels or lolling in the sunshine in the South of France so that you do not overstep your experience in areas that you know nothing about. Actually Santiago , I spent Easter helping a woman I know cook meals and set-up a party for children with HIV that she has been doing after her son died 7 yrs ago....in a city with the highest rate of that disease among children and adults in the US . I'm sure you could figure out some way to explain these kids having HIV , as some wickedness and sin on their parts or sent by God to punish them , right ? It is certain that your hero Mr Elect could .<g> , And yes, we all saw the initial knee-jerk reactions by the Falwells , Robertsons and Baptists & Catholics when that disease first came out . Now, go argue some more and pretend you know all about the Second Coming of JESUS , wrap yopurselves up in rapture and feel like you are saved .... while health-care givers and scientist figure out ways to really solve these problems and make good information known , and really try and help change this world. I would rather see people praying to an Elephant , than follow your endless superstitious BS.