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To: hueyone who wrote (174257)	4/26/2003 2:00:23 AM
From: pass pass	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

no one forces you to own companies who do not expense their stock options. You have total freedom to buy companies like Coke which does expense options.

To: hueyone who wrote (174257)	4/26/2003 1:35:29 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 186894

Many of the so called visionary leaders of Silly Con Valley seemed to have lost their vision, or else there has been a dearth of good management since the 1980s. Steadily increasing the grant rate for options and repricing as the stock price goes down doesn't correlate to management with great long term vision imho. You know Hueyone, statements like this really give the anti-options expensing crowd ammunition. I have no idea why you even go there. You are obviously confused about vision, what it is, and who possesses it. I have heard you make statements about vision before (I seem to recall you think that Buffett is some sort of visionary icon)... ? The general consensus in tech circles is that the "vision engine" really cranked up in the 90s, and left the 80s in the dust. You know, that internet thing, a valid invention no? What exactly in the 80s do you think had the cultural or economic significance of the internet? But even beyond that, the 90s gave us a plethora of technical inventions- my area software literally exploded, there was nothing like this in the 80s. In the 80s the software industry's entire market consisted of knowledge workers and an occassional geek game-player. But no sense listening to me, just look at the global allocation of money towards technology of all types in the 90s vs. the 80s. Depending on the numbers you use- the 90s vs. 80s global capture of money for tech is greater by orders of magnitudes. The problem that those in favor of options expensing have, is that this explosion of inventions that played a role in ramping the US economy also coincided with stock options increases to the the mid level engineering ranks-this is just the way it is and there is no sense denying it or trying to create a picture that the 80s were "just as good" as the 90s wrt ingenuity and therefore options aren't necessary.