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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (96461)	4/26/2003 5:37:43 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 281500

> As almost everyone in the streets of Karbala will tell you... > The only ones that come close, are the ones that say God in unknowable I understand the point you are trying to make, but it is not so even in your own writing. Islam is one of those religions that believes God is unknowable. So your above two statements are inconsistent. As well, Islam directs you to find out the answers to the universe. The universe is presumed to be fully understandable by humans. God's creations are presumed to be understandable by humans because humans have the spirit of God. The nature of almighty Himself however is said to be beyond our grasp. So here you have a religion that is much more self consistent than Christianity. In fact evolution is fairly easily explained in Islam. Allah says that he made the world out of water. And he created humans out of water, rotten mud, and blood gelatin. Muslims actually use evolution and chemical analysis of humans as proof that Islam is indeed from God...let's move on to a critical part of your argument. > "Only God knows why He did that." I do not accept this view on its face and strictly speaking it is not a Christian view either. The key here is your assumption that whatever that happens is because God did it. But there is no reason to believe that. I can accept that God created the universe. I can further accept that God has knowledge of everything that is going on. But adding these two together does not mean it was God that made me go to Burger King. So if I run someone over on the way, it was not God that "did" it. In fact, if you take the view that "God did it" where "it" can be anything, then the whole question of creation and meaning of life becomes absurd; you are not doing anything. Whether you like it or not, you are a tool in the hand of God. And that is self consistent but a meaningless world, just like some of the pure reason theories. The concept of "free will" means that God did not do it. You did. > The problem here, is that this very flexibility undermines the sense of certainty. And erodes Earthly Order and Stability. Buddhism disproves this position.