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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (96518)	4/27/2003 3:07:34 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

OT OT OT, Sufis, Gaia, and Giordano Bruno: There are, in Christianity too, many examples (none of which ever came to be the dominant expression of the religion), of the idea of God = the natural world. For example: On the 17th February 1600, the philosopher Giordano Bruno (1548-1600) was burnt alive as a heretic in Rome. Though he had joined the Dominicans, who had educated him in Aristotelian philosophy and Thomistic theology, he always manifested an independence in thinking. Bruno advocated philosophical theories that blended mystical Neoplatonism and pantheism. He believed that the universe is infinite, that God is the universal world-soul, and that all particular material things are manifestations of the one infinite principle. After imprisonment for eight years by the Inquisition, Bruno was burned at the stake in Campo dei Fiori. mcauley.acu.edu.au

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (96518)	4/27/2003 8:14:36 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 281500

It is in fact the lack of interference (well not quite but enough) from America more than the Bush threats that has been the biggest factor in change. At least the support the US has provided has been VERY low key and untraceable... When you have both the people and the government coming to the same conclusion, personal agendas have little chance to resist change. Change in Iran is now inevitable. I really believe the demographics (70% of Iranian being under 30) have a large part to do with the unrest. They are looking for something different than the lack of opportunities they "enjoy" under the current regime. The one thing the Islamic fundamentalist/militant movements cannot provide is a strong economy. No Theocracy has that kind of capability since business and religion seldom mix well unless it involves invasions and extracting wealth from colonies. But if the West fails in providing an effective economic alternative, we could easily see the theocrats and authoritarians supported again. Hawk