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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: KonKilo who wrote (335)	4/27/2003 3:14:54 PM
From: LPS5	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

And you find that source credible, ShilohCat?

To: KonKilo who wrote (335)	4/27/2003 3:25:33 PM
From: space (Hijacked)	Respond to of 20039

Are you telling me that people actually believe the person in the confession video is OBL? They might as well have used Barney the dinosaur. Geeez, I can't believe how plain stupid and gullible people have become.

To: KonKilo who wrote (335)	4/27/2003 5:20:08 PM
From: Don Earl	Respond to of 20039

<<<Many people, myself included, consider that videotape to be a fake.>>> It's not even a good fake. The real tell is the nose, which I find interesting has not been pointed out in the few side by sides I've run across. A rounder face could be discounted by the addition of groceries, but obesity will NOT cause one's nose to become shorter. OBL could quite possibly hold the world record for the longest schnoz on a human face. The beak on the imposture is at a minimum a half to three quarters of an inch shorter. Noses are almost as unique as finger prints, at least when you get into the extreme ranges of shape. Add in the fact the tape is unaccountably fuzzy, the translations have been openly criticized by experts, and the sound quality is said to be nearly as fuzzy as the images. The news articles being released at the time clearly cast doubt on the tapes' authenticity, and it was clear it was a propaganda prop from day one. GWB had repeatedly accused OBL prior to the prop of being behind 9/11, so the average person was looking more for support for the claim rather than negative proof. The average person would not tend to question the "aledged" nature of the tape, as the media has programmed the average person to accept "aledged" as "conclusive". The average person does not speak Arabic, so any translation would be accepted as genuine. And sad to say, the only people who look unique to the average white person are other white people. You could hire Wesley Snipes to do a tape of Martin Luther King Jr. and get away with it. You won't find mainstream media debunking the obvious forgery, because these days, that's not what they consider to be their purpose. They're in business to sell commercials and political pressure. Presenting objective facts is not part of the program if it interferes with their primary goals.

To: KonKilo who wrote (335)	4/27/2003 6:26:33 PM
From: ChrisJP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

Many people, myself included, consider that videotape to be a fake. Hi ShiloCat, of course you do. That's the way the game is played, isn't it ? Claim strong evidence is faked or planted. Dismiss weak evidence as ..... well ...... weak. But I'm apparently not allowed to dismiss this thread's weak evidence. And it has no hard evidence. An interesting double-standard. Do you have a sense of humor ? I typed "bin Laden videotape fake" into Yahoo and got this link. yorick.infinitejest.org:81/1/obl-video-makingof.html I'm not sure which side the author was on, but either way, I thought it was pretty funny, creative , and well done. (Don't miss the shadow in the second picture) :-)) Do you believe the Earth revolves around the Sun ? You and others here shouldn't. Here's why: 1. For the Earth to revolve around the Sun, there would need to be some kind of rope or wire connecting the two. There isn't. All this talk about gravity is just the lie scientist tell to make the "Earth goes around the Sun story" believable. If you aksed them to explain how gravity works, they will tell you they don't know, which basically means they made it up. 2. For us to believe the "Earth goes around the Sun story", we also (according to scientists calculations) have to believe the Sun is approximately 93 million miles from Earth. This means that the Earth needs to travel something like 584 million miles in a year !! Which is 1.6 million miles per hour. Yet the typical wind on Earth is maybe 10 to 15 miles per hour. Therefore we are not travelling anywhere at 1.6 million miles per hour so therefore, we are not revolving around the Sun. So I've basically poked 2 huge holes in the "Earth goes around the Sun story". The only pluasible explanation why the hoax persists is a massive conspiracy by the government, the few scientists who control the mathematics that supposedly explains it all, and maybe the clergy. Take care, Chris