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To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (32543)4/27/2003 5:05:37 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 74559
 
Re: I dont think the term is really conveyor

There are several designations. N. Atlantic drift is a standard scientific term:
oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu

"Antarctic Circumpolar Current" is, TTBOMK, the official designation for the southern end of the conveyor...

Cf.: oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu
firstscience.com

Or you might like "Global Thermohaline Circulation":
sam.ucsd.edu

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But me? I'm just a drifter,
and when I drink the Wall Street snifter,
hoping to be a decent grifter.



To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (32543)4/27/2003 6:57:54 PM
From: Snowshoe  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
I dont think the term is really conveyor

It doesn't matter. Now that Iraq has fallen, the neocons won't be satisfied until they reunite Gondwanaland. <g>



To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (32543)4/27/2003 7:21:23 PM
From: Moominoid  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
>>Break down in the North Atlantic drift<< you mean North Atlantic conveyor (*) ... Looks like - from what I remember to have read - this kind of changes are more of a switch on/off kind (iow catastrophic). If Gulf stream turns off, then it's not just Scandinavia and Russia, it's also US (no more tornadoes?)

The Drift is the surface one, usually only called Gulf Stream near the US coast.

East coasts of continents have extreme climates like the eastern US and East Asia and west coast climates are mild like Washington-Oregon and Britain/France. Britain and France are just a little warmer than the relevant areas on the North American west coast where the pattern of currents is different. So by analogy that is my worst case scenario. Relevant parts of Norway seem a lot warmer than the parts of Alaska. Inland it is hard to compare as the mountains are different heights and there is a big gap through the middle between Oslo and the Alps. Stockholm does seem milder than the Yukon territory though...

There would still be a warm current moving north off the US in this scenario I think and a cold one moving south off Portugal. It is just that the turn around point might be further south and west.

Still it didn't happen at the previous peak temperature. Historical/geographical analogies are probably more reliable than the models at this point.

David