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To: lurqer who wrote (18140)	4/27/2003 10:17:39 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

I'm fascinated that you think FoxNews is racist & believes in an autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. I think the left is acting more & more like that in their politics & how they react to opposing POV's, etc. If anything, the further left you go, the more fascist they seem to be. And they have no problem acting that way publicly. Frankly, I don't see that on FoxNews. The more I watch FoxNews, I am glad to see some moderation & balance than one sided, salacious hype & bias common to most media outlets. Sure they are biased to the conservative POV more so than most media. I think that it is so rare to see moderately conservative POV's on the tube, that the perception is that they are extreme. IMO, that's because it's being compared to the widespread liberal bias that has been so common on the tube for decades. Some people have become comfortable with left wing bias 24/7. FoxNews certainly would seem to be unsettling no doubt. FoxNews didn't sell out the truth, cover up real news & report favorable propaganda for access to Saddam like CNN did for nearly a decade. And that's just one example of one issue, yet many on the left hardly lifted an eyebrow while they continued to lambast FoxNews. Go figure. On FoxNews, they seem to be pro-USA, but give both sides to their stories far more often than most media outlets. I think that is a good thing. I don't want only one POV rammed down my throat, thank you very much. Fox has strongly stood behind the rights of those who have protested, including Hollywood's elite. They have however, acknowledged that folks can freely express their opposition to the protesters if they are so inclined. And yes, they have shown the hypocrisy of many protestors when folks question their motives based on their actions, words & deeds. FoxNews has not attempted to silence liberal critics or even their own liberal reporters & anchors. In fact they frequently have people on who are at odds on issues & give equal time to both sides. However, I understand that folks will see what they want to see & hear what they want to hear. When it is contrary to their POV & presented over media that has shied away from the middle, let alone the right for so long now, well, Katie bar the door!

To: lurqer who wrote (18140)	4/27/2003 10:18:26 PM
From: lurqer	Respond to of 89467

Doesn't mean an immmediate fall, but sorta caps the upside. From Shack softwarenorth.net lurqer

To: lurqer who wrote (18140)	4/27/2003 10:30:58 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 89467

A correction that ran in yesterday's New York Times: "A front-page article on Tuesday about criticism voiced by American military officers in Iraq over war plans omitted two words from an earlier comment by Lt. Gen. William S. Wallace, commander of V Corps. General Wallace had said (with the omission indicated by uppercasing), 'The enemy we're fighting is A BIT different from the one we war-gamed against.' " washingtontimes.com

To: lurqer who wrote (18140)	4/27/2003 10:49:03 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 89467

No Gaffes On The Left National Review’s Stanley Kurtz details the Times “shameful treatment” of recent remarks by Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, noting Wednesday’s Times contained three mentions of Santorum’s controversial remarks on gays (there’s another Santorum story in Thursday’s paper). .....when powerful Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd used a racial slur twice on a Fox News program in March 2001, the Times first mention of it was in a book review--nine months later...... Times Watch would also note the New York Times never editorialized on the recent verbal gaffes of prominent Democrats. In March, when Democratic Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia implied the war in Iraq was being undertaken at the behest of American Jews, the Times editorial page kept silent, although the paper ran news stories on the controversy. ....The same standard of ignoring Democratic outrages held when Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur of Ohio compared Al Qaeda to American revolutionaries on March 1: “If you think back to our founding as a country, we are a country of revolution. One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown." Kaptur’s deluded comparison was also completely ignored by the Times...... One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation- state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown." Kaptur’s deluded comparison was also completely ignored by the Times. Worse was the Times treatment of comments in December by Democratic Sen. Patty Murray of Washington, when she said Osama bin Laden had "been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful." The Times ignored Murray’s comments completely. timeswatch.org