To: epicure who wrote (776 ) 4/28/2003 10:49:14 AM From: The Philosopher Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773 The post I responded to had plenty of factual basis, imo I see. If you consider those facts and not opinion, we have nothing more to talk about. For those who haven't kept track of the discussion, following is the complete post which X believed had "plenty of factual basis" for saying "I am afraid I do not watch Fox. If I watch TV I watch CSPAN, CSPAN2 or PBS. But I do believe in your assessment." As to someone who considers the following to be "plenty of factual basis" for condemning something they never watch, either you agree with her that it is, or you don't. Personally, I prefer facts that are more fact than insult, but clearly X and I have differing opinions about what constitutes facts. I'll just keep my opinion, thanks kindly, and she can have hers and welcome to it. The post in question: happened to watch a couple of stock market shows on Fox News this morning, because one of my favorite chart guys, Gary Smith was on. But I thought I was going to puke after the first 2 minutes. Both shows featured flag-waving bimbos and gratuitous hyper-patriotic terms and phrases at every turn. As a long time media person, I think I have figured out why Fox is doing so well in the ratings: They have successfully dumbed it down so hardly any viewers feel insecure. Any moron, dumb as a post, can watch Fox and feel intellectually superior. Unfortunately we do know that TV news is primarily for those folks who do not read well. Fox is simply going "over the top" with this concept, and it's working for them ratings-wise. There is no way they could be considered a credible news medium, by anyone with any education at all. <.i>