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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TigerPaw who wrote (24332)4/28/2003 11:59:17 AM
From: Tadsamillionaire  Respond to of 25898
 
Who cares that he met with them. If it was about business and not trying to kill anyone, he had every right to do so.
Adolf Hitler met with the builders of steamships in various parts of Europe before he attacked anyone.
The olympics were held in Germany before the war, and guess what,the U.S. attended! Hey, I heard Hillary met with the Auxillery Womens League, what will we do now?



To: TigerPaw who wrote (24332)4/28/2003 12:02:06 PM
From: Tadsamillionaire  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
Loral Space & Communications, the satellite company headed by Democratic contributor Bernard Schwartz, was the largest donor to Kerry's leadership PAC through 2002, with $30,000 in soft money donations.



To: TigerPaw who wrote (24332)4/28/2003 7:33:58 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
Dancing on the grave of a failed ideology....

PartyTime, former führer of the Treason Party, is MIA. Oddly enough, he disappeared the night Baghdad fell to US troops. We hope he was only captured by them and not shot.

Speaking of nostalgia:

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But to take a sprawling city of about 5 million people that is nearly in the centre of a huge desert, calls for an army of tens of thousands to march in from the south, north and west.

Soldiers of Australia, Britain and the United States - welcome to Baghdad.

The Iraqi capital will be hard to defend. But in war few cities of this size have been captured without a bruising battle and a body count for the invaders that challenges public opinion and political will at home.

Historically, the casualty rate in the capture of major cities has been as high as 40 to 50 per cent. Even when the US plays urban-conflict war games, the death toll invariably is more than 10 per cent.

The centre of Baghdad is chock-full of high-rise apartment towers that will allow the Iraqis to make shooting galleries of the city's jumbled avenues and lanes. And the locals know where best to hide along these potential furrows of death.

Likely targets are sprinkled throughout Baghdad's cinder-block sprawl - dangerous territory into which a desperate Saddam may attempt to lure pockets of an invading army before cutting them off from the rest of the invasion force, or subjecting them to chemical or biological attacks - if he does have such weapons.

-Militarily, the city could be as daunting as Tora Bora, with the straight lines of urban design replacing the jagged rawness of the mountains, and Saddam's network of bunkers and tunnels in the place of the caves and tracks that provided an escape route for Osama bin Laden and hundreds of al-Qaeda fighters.

It all makes for good ambush terrain - there could be snipers in every building and an Iraqi runner with the nerve to nip across the street with a message becomes as effective as the Americans' state-of-the-art communications.

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