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To: re3 who wrote (156664)4/28/2003 12:37:08 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Respond to of 164684
 
What's different? Well, for starters, Saddam obviously had a much tighter grip on Iraq than the Shah had on Iran - otherwise opposition could have organized against him like it did against the Shah (unless you are suggesting the Iraqis really liked Saddam and had no desire to overthrow him, in which case I'm wasting my time talking to you;-). Second, we, along with our allies, propped up the Shah when his people obviously opposed him and wanted him gone. Other than long-ago mistaken "the enemy of our enemy is our friend" policies, we have not supported Saddam (though some of our supposed allies sure have). Anyway, the circumstances of Saddam and the Shah's reign and overthrow are significantly different and Iran's internally-driven revolution doesn't remotely resemble either how Saddam was removed or even the nature of internal opposition to him.

As for Iran, have you not heard that the people of Iran have been clamoring for greater freedom, more democratic government and less theocratic authoritarianism for at least the last decade and that they've made considerable headway? The theocratic dictatorship of a handful of clerics is on the way out in Iran (it's half-way gone already) - there is no reason to think the Iraqis want to recreate it in their country.



To: re3 who wrote (156664)4/28/2003 1:01:49 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Respond to of 164684
 
Interesting twist:

At the latest meeting of Iraq's potential leaders of the future, clear divisions emerged over Washington's role in the interim period ahead of planned elections.

Many former exiles said Iraqis should rule their country alone and the United States should have only a limited role.

Other Iraqis who had not left said they wanted more U.S. supervision because they did not trust those who returned after Saddam's fall.

"There are differences over the role of the Americans. We here prefer the Americans to rule us in the interim period," said Suheil al-Suheil, a Baghdad lawyer. "We are not ready to handle this yet. Saddam's orphans are still alive."


story.news.yahoo.com



To: re3 who wrote (156664)4/28/2003 4:23:53 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
I know that I sure don't like that Chalabi figure... if that is who the US is intending to "market" to the iraqi people as a leader, I don't think it will fly.

The guy seems like a shyster (sp?)... kindof a shifty character