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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: LindyBill who wrote (400321)	4/29/2003 7:33:21 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 769670

PNAC, nowhere to be seen on Lieber's flawed radar..... Bill, Re: Excellent article that nails the "Conspiracy Theory" Crowd. You have a very naive view of what "nailed" means. Lieber failed at everything to do with analysis in his name-dropping tour de force. Mr. Lieber has some funny blinders on. He utterly fails to mention the Project for a New American Century and how they've seemingly emerged as the most important foreign policy wonks and militarist/hyper-nationalist proponents in the Bush Mal-administration. Reality was distorted by Lieber to the extent that his article was more of an amusement than an enlightment. More serious discussions of what Bush is really up to are here: informationclearinghouse.info sundayherald.com PNAC, in a nutshell: Message 18051067

To: LindyBill who wrote (400321)	4/29/2003 10:06:23 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Lind's speculation that the president may not even be aware of what this cabal has foisted upon him embodies the hallmarks of conspiratorial reasoning. In his words, "It is not clear that George W. fully understands the grand strategy that Wolfowitz and other aides are unfolding. He seems genuinely to believe that there was an imminent threat to the U.S. from Saddam Hussein's 'weapons of mass destruction,' something the leading neocons say in public but are far too intelligent to believe themselves." While it seems far fetched that the President would be so out of touch, what is not covered is the extremely limited amount of information he is given. Nobody talks to W unless they and their message have been approved by Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. While various advisors like Condi Rice feed him with facts and figures until his eyes roll back, it is not until Cheney tells him what it means that action is taken. Junior only gets one story, first directly and then he is sat in front of Faux TV to receive the same story again. TP

To: LindyBill who wrote (400321)	4/29/2003 10:39:25 AM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

It's been a long journey, but the Marxist/Leninist anti-American domestic enemy has finally returned completely to its Stalinist roots. The anti-Semitism of the left (an emulation of the late Stalin Terror period) is generated by the fact that a strong Israel is only possible through a strong America, and fits hand-in-glove with their racist attitudes in general. Who's wearing the jackboots today?..