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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (400713)	4/29/2003 9:14:40 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 769670

Poor "Baghdad Bob." Seems nobody wants you when you are down and out. US forces 'turn down Sahhaf's surrender overtures' April 30 2003 Iraq's former information minister Mohammad Said al-Sahhaf, who denied to the end the presence of US forces in Baghdad, was turned down by US troops after trying to turn himself in, said the London-based Arab newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat, citing a Kurdish official. Sahhaf had been at his aunt's house in Baghdad for the past four days and wanted US troops to arrest him so that "they can protect him" but they refused since he was not on their "most wanted" deck of playing cards, said the paper, citing Adel Murad of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK). Mr Murad said Sahhaf was in Mosul before going to Baghdad and that some PUK partisans saw him in the northern city and that he even asked some of them to intervene on his behalf with US troops, but "we told him that we didn't want to be party to this matter", the paper added. The Kurdish official told the paper that US troops regularly patrolled near Sahhaf's hideout on Palestine Street in the Iraqi capital and that he sent some of his relatives to inform them of his wish to surrender, but they turned him down. "Negotiations are still going on to hand him over to them," said Mr Murad. The Portuguese daily Diario de Noticias said on Thursday that a family claiming to be sheltering Sahhaf, reportedly in the women's section of a home in a poor neighbourhood of Baghdad, had been in contact with two Portuguese journalists seeking their help in approaching US forces. Sahhaf's daily briefings during the US-led war on Iraq made him a world celebrity. He vanished when US forces entered central Baghdad and may be dead but his words are still very much alive on the web. Among them: "My feelings, as usual, we will slaughter them all." "Our initial assessment is that they will all die." Low-cost Irish airline Ryanair has used his photograph in a recent advertisement campaign in the British press. Even Sahhaf's "archenemy" US President George Bush said in a recent interview with NBC television that he enjoyed Sahhaf's briefings so much that he used to interrupt some of his meetings just to watch him. AFP This story was found at: smh.com.au <http://server-au.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/count?url=&rnd=1051665121880&cid=au_f2_SMH-Printer&ref=http%3A//www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/29/1051381954235.html&sr=sr1024x768:cd16:lgen-US:jey:cky:tz-10:ctna:hpna>

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (400713)	4/30/2003 4:46:45 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

First, the circumstantial evidence favors the administration. Why were there innumerable chemical suits and antidotes stockpiled for Iraqi troops? Why have we found manuals on chemical warfare, and caches of precursory materials? Second, Iraqi scientists have already said that in the final weeks before the war, Saddam made a major effort to dump caches, send material to Syria, or hide them in the desert. Third, it is a little early to say, if they are well- hidden, whether we will find them. Fourth, no one said that Iraq was an imminent danger in itself, the fear was always that Saddam would coordinate with terrorists to make them more lethal. We have, in fact, begun the process of verifying contact with Al- Qaida, and already knew about other associations. Fifth, the issue had to be resolved. The way that the regime diverted oil money was killing hundreds of thousands of children, through neglect. We could not continue with sanctions indefinitely.