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To: Dayuhan who wrote (96863)	4/30/2003 12:16:10 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

One thing that we have to accept is that despite all the talk of financial interests here and there, these countries ultimately had no choice but to reject the war, because their populations were overwhelmingly opposed to it. There is a certain feedback loop involved, particularly if you're referring to European countries. As we have heard repeatedly from posters on this thread and others, most of Europe heard only one side of the argument. Had the leaders wished to pursue another policy, they could have at least introduced the other side of the argument into the discussion.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (96863)	4/30/2003 12:41:35 PM
From: Brian Sullivan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

One thing that we have to accept is that despite all the talk of financial interests here and there, these countries ultimately had no choice but to reject the war, because their populations were overwhelmingly opposed to it. That's the nature of democracy, and the logic of trying to impose trade penalties on a nation because their people don't always agree with our policies escapes me utterly. It is one thing to state that you oppose the invasion of Iraq and it is quite another to send your foreign minister to every South American and African country serving in the Security council to round up more votes for your anti-US position. Also if you are a country that has a veto privilege in the UN you have to think very carefully because using you veto would undermine the United Nations. This is why you will find that China typically abstains on almost every issue that they oppose rather than use their veto. China pretty much reserves their veto for issues involving Taiwan. However you have France going around yelling that they will veto anything with the words Iraq in it, and they announce this publicly before a second resolution was even written.