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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: sylvester80 who wrote (400901)	4/30/2003 11:29:46 AM
From: Johannes Pilch	Respond to of 769670

An example to the forum of how NOT to ask questions Few of the questions in the post prior to this one are intelligent, and the fairly perceptive amongst us will experience vicarious embarrassment that our resident numbskull would even ask them here, building up to them via a protracted tomato-headed cabaret as if the questions would prove the silver bullet to kill every ‘evil right wing evangelical of the Pat Robertson sort.’ The questions in fact almost all present the fallacy Plurium Interrogationum - the fallacy of the Complex Question. How do you justify the killing of innocent by your own hands within Christ's teachings? We would be precisely as logical as the questioner were we to ask him in response to his query “How do you justify raping your neighbor’s son, since sodomites tend to do this sort of thing?” Where did Christ say that you had to feel safe by killing others? To which we might just as logically respond, “why are you such a sodomite?” I've been told that evangelical born again Christians know for a fact that they are going to heaven no matter what. Is that true? The question above is somewhat more legitimate than those prior to it, but it is unfortunately rendered illegitimate because it comes from an apparent twit. name the fallacy here Do you worry about your treasures on earth? Again, more legitimate, but as it appears the result of twittery, perhaps the most reasoned response to it is block-headed indifference. How do you feel about this U.S. religious right export? To which we might as logically respond “How do you feel when you have anonymous anal sex with men?”

To: sylvester80 who wrote (400901)	4/30/2003 12:43:29 PM
From: username	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

You've asked not one, but several questions. Here are my answers: I don't "justify" killing [an] innocent [person] by my own hands. Justification implies that I did something wrong. I've never killed an innocent person, so I have no need to go beyond that. I know of no reference where Christ says I "have to feel safe by killing others". I can tell you that personally, I have the ability and intention to defend myself, my family, and my property from an illegal attack by you or anyone else, should the situation arise. I hold the opinion that a person's religion is a deeply personal matter. I don't discuss religion on this or any other site. Many Christians (perhaps most, I have no personal way to verify the data) do indeed believe that they will go to heaven. The other part of your question doesn't make sense to me. No, I don't worry about my "treasures on earth". I sometimes worry about things, but not very often, and never about "treasures on earth". Regarding your news story, I have no opinion on it, since I didn't read it. All I did was quickly scroll down enough to note that you have possibly violated the Terms of Use of the site and infringed on a copyright by cutting and pasting that story, if it is indeed a real story. I can, in all humility, say this to you: If you feel the need to violate copyright infringement law on this site, or you feel the need to post some story that contains someone else's personal opinion stated as "fact" in an attempt to "prove" to me that what I believe (which you have no clue about) is flawed, then perhaps you may wish to pick up some book that discusses personal ethics and read that instead. Also, if you are sincerely interested in learning about me, you may wish to actually find out what opinions I hold regarding politics BEFORE you call me a Nazi, or a pervert, or a bigot. It reminds me of the tactics used by someone who feels some compulsion to force their religious beliefs on me. Any more questions for me?