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To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (70132)	4/30/2003 10:36:21 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Time changes a lot of things. Forty years is a long time. Whereas an invasion by strangers from all over the world would at the time be met with hostility from the local population (surprise, surprise), I do not agree with you that is the general understanding of this day and age. I believe Palestinians' expectations have been curbed to what is realistic - that is, having a state of their own separate from Israel. Now, "occupation" is that of the land which is not Israel - i.e. "occupied territories". In all, you are trying to say more or less in the lines of "We can't do anything to please them anyway, since all they want is total destruction of Israel, so we don't have to compromise at all, since peace is impossible with these savages, and hence we will continue with our brutal occupation of Palestinians and the land on which they live". Basically, I don't see a solid rational ground for any of those statements.

To: Cary Salsberg who wrote (70132)	5/2/2003 9:30:57 AM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 70976

Its charter called for the destruction of Israel. The first World Zionist Congress in 1897 called for the the complete destruction of Palestine. It has never been renounced, and it is currently being implemented. Israel has conquered 3/4 of Palestine by military force, and is now settling the remaining 1/4 (which it already rules by military force). domino.un.org Note that the PLO has recognized Israel's statehood, while Israel has not recognized Palestinian statehood. Tom