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To: KLP who wrote (97071)	5/1/2003 2:33:16 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I think the draconian measures which have finally been implemented in Beijing, Hong Kong, Singapore and China are, or will be, essential, worldwide, unfortunately. These include: -- screening people getting on and off airplanes and other public transportation with questionnaires, themometers and/or infrared body scans -- if they are potentially infected with SARS, don't let them travel; -- disinfect public transportation and public restrooms regularly -- that means several times a day -- for taxicabs that means after each passenger -- keep disinfectant alcohol based hand cleaner in all public bathrooms; -- faster processing of people presenting at health care facilities with SARS-type symptoms -- don't leave them sitting around waiting rooms, or lying around on stretchers in hallways; -- provide potentially infected patients with their own thermometers to take their temperatures at home -- in some places patients have to travel to health care facilities to have their temperature taken, which is a VERY bad idea; -- treat all potential cases of SARS as if they really are SARS until proven otherwise -- that means gown, gloves, goggles and N-95 masks on health care providers -- that means make all suspect cases of SARS stay home until proven otherwise -- probably their families too; -- avoid hospitals and health care facilities unless necessary -- I know the above seems crazy. Unfortunately, there is no reliable test for SARS and there is no cure. The death rate is in the range of 10%. It is out of control in China. Without drastic measures, I see no reason for it not to become endemic world wide. According to US Department of Health and Human Service, 90 to 95% of all respirators in the US are in use during flu season already.

To: KLP who wrote (97071)	5/1/2003 2:42:44 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

This is what Shanghai is doing (not translated by me): All passengers entering Shanghai need to check temperature and fill in the health declaration form. This applies to all entrance including air, train, ship, bus. Hotels needs to do the same for all guests. Enhance prevention measures for schools and kindergarnders. All public transportation vehecales and public places must be disinfected everyday. Planes, trains, long distance buses, cargos, metro, buses, taxies and all other kind of publich transportation viacles and stations, ports, dorms in building sites, schools, Internet cafes, bars, Karaoks, theaters, shopping malls, and other public places must be disinfected everyday and stick the disinfection mark with the date of the disinfection. Failure to keep compliant with the requires will be shutdown immediately. Strictly control large scale activities. No large event with large amount of people gathering is allowed. Any organization should not organize any international or inter-provincial events. Scheduled events should be canncelled or postponed. Strictly control meeting, tour and investigation to outside Shanghai. No organization should arrange any meeting, tour or investigation to places outside Shanghai. All travel agencies should stop any tour to other provinces. Tourism administrations should advice travel agencies in other provinces to cancel their tour groups' trip to Shanghai. All people returning Shanghai from SARS affected areas are required to be observed for two weeks and be reported to local disease control organizations. All organizations should persuade people not to tour or travel. Returning people from SARS affected areas need to report to local health orgnizations and stay in home for at least two weeks. Strengthen the professionalism of first-line workers. All health organization, airport, custom, ports, import and export quarantine, etc staff, public transportation staff, like on plane, train, ship, long distance buses must wear masks at work and take other neccessary precautions. Announce the situation of epidemic and encourage supervising from the public. Continue to publish the status of the epidemic on all media and hold news conference weekly. All citizens should report any suspected SARS patients and will be granted prize for those whose report is confirmed. All parama staff need to investigate customers for cough or fever medicines and persuade them to go to see a doctor whenever possible. All activities need to be ochrasted by the local district government first then by the parent organization. home.wangjianshuo.com Shanghai reportedly only has two cases.

To: KLP who wrote (97071)	5/1/2003 2:46:49 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

More from Shanghai: >>Latest from News at Ten of Shanghai TV Station I recorded some piece of the latest information from The News at Ten from Shanghai TV Station. Again, this is the draft of the items for your information only. I cannot garantee the correctness of the recording - about 10% of the content may be misrecorded. They are listed in no particular order. Fine for bad habbits of citizens dramatically increased. Spitting will be fined 200 RMB instead of current 50 RMB. Litter ciggritte remains will be fined 100 RMB instead of 50 RMB. Dropping Gum will be fined for 200 RMB instead of 100 RMB. (my comment: the city is taking SARS as the chance to fight against some bad habits among the citizens) The Shanghai Auto Show is closed early in order to prevent SARS. The CAAC is returning air tickets free of refunding fee during the May labor day holiday. According to CAAC, tickets among April 30 - May 7 tickets can be returned without additional charge if they were bought before midnight last night. Beijing is closing most schools to prevent the spread of SARS. 1 millions students in Beijing were dismissed to home for two weeks and the coming mid-term examinations cancelled. Send SMS Message "NEWS" to 258088 (China Mobile) or to 958008(Unicom) for SARS related English breaking news. All students in one of the school in Shanghai need to check temperature every day - this has become a common practise in Shanghai. All students need to report to the school if their family members goes or returns out of the town - from the same schools. All theaters needs to be disinfected before every movie show. Beauty solon workers are required to wear masks at work All car or bus drivers are required to leave a detailed record about their health condition and the locations they have been. They will also need to take body temperatures at all toll station. Most drivers said they support th e policy. "SARS is a very serious problem and we are all concerned about it." said one driver. Conclusion: I got more alerted, but feel safer<< home.wangjianshuo.com

To: KLP who wrote (97071)	5/1/2003 3:33:44 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Reconstitute the UN. Sars knows no borders and has no passport. It's war writ large. Us vs Sars. So far, although we've killed umpteen megatrillions of the virus, it just keeps coming. Most countries have got it cornered, perhaps. The USA hasn't, but hasn't had a single fatality, but the reporting seems odd in the USA. Presumably the WHO is not getting data from the USA because the USA doesn't like the WHO. Since China runs themselves, we can only help as much as they will let us. They seem to have messed up and are now scrambling to control it. China isn't in a position to come up with vaccines or other controls, so the west should declare war on Sars and do what we can to help China destroy the virus. Cobalt Blue made some suggestions. We have to figure out how to kill it and meanwhile slow it down to a crawl. China might be able to use some help. Mqurice

To: KLP who wrote (97071)	5/1/2003 3:57:29 PM
From: RealMuLan	Respond to of 281500

One thing to start with, instead of a blank/empty offering of any help possible from President Bush, the US should learn from Japan, and South Korea, just give money, or mask, protection uniform, etc... and China will be very glad to accept them, just like accept them from Japan and S.K. It is not a secret that these medical supplies are in extremely short supply. And China is very unlikely to ask anything openly. I guess in this matter, Japan and S.K. do understand more about China. They are Asians after all. And it is also appreciated if the US can contribute some fund for ASEAN newly-founded SARS Fund, although I realize now the US is also very cash-poor<g>.