To: dvdw© who wrote (715 ) 5/5/2003 5:58:08 PM From: Wyätt Gwyön Respond to of 4912 one more thingy...Z. Sitchin depicts golds history in its most original and imaginative context! i should clarify what i meant when i said the market lacks imagination. i didn't mean more people should make up theories about extraterrestrials. i was referring to the fat tails of return distributions, which are chronically underestimated by the market. the market relies on a steady state, so outlier returns and events are underpriced. this situation was the subject of Taleb's Fooled by Randomness . the market is Niederhoffer selling thin tails where imagination would show fat tails. Taleb is the Cheshire Cat sitting out on the fat tail, buying the OTM calls and puts for nickels and dimes, losing money by dribs and drabs and holding his positions because he knows the frequency of unexpected occurrences is itself unexpectedly high. Niederhoffer gets rich slowly and goes bankrupt quickly. Taleb gets poor slowly and hits the jackpot when it's least expected. this is the distinction between Imagination Haves and Have Nots. here's what i wrote about imagination a couple years ago, when again i think the meaning of the term may have been misunderstood by some... #reply-16164293 To:Jay Chen who wrote (6524) From: Darfot Thursday, Aug 2, 2001 11:16 PM View Replies (5) | Respond to of 33054 the problem is, investors in the aggregate lack imagination. that is, the world is seen only as a line of time unfolding in connected dots--there is no thought space for discontinuities. lack of imagination, and lack of respect for fat tails, is what killed LTCM and has killed the lemmings of the past, present and future. step back and look at the past. imagine yourself as an investor in the 20s, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, and so on. at each inflection point, if you held onto the past--if you lacked the will to imagine Something Unknown (not necessarily its particulars, except the particular possibility that it might exist)--you would have fought the last war and run down the same road, assuming it went on forever. the drunken road of 90% margin in 1929. the green road of Savings Bonds in the early 50s. the yellow brick road of gold in the 70s and the paydirt of Japanese real estate in the 80s...each time you would follow the mirage of continuity over a cliff and before you know it, you have a hard landing on the rocky shoals of Dead Lemmings Past... why should today be any different? there is a road to riches out there being trudged by millions. and it's a lie.