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To: Brumar89 who wrote (16750)	5/5/2003 8:22:39 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 21614

Antiwar Guardian writer feels no shame at being intellectually and morally wrong denbeste.nu >>>>>Stardate 20030505.1010 (On Screen): Simon Tisdall, writing in The Guardian, laments the recent failure to prevent war in Iraq, and describes how the world felt shame and revulsion when the course of events held up a mirror: It saw the illusion of the security council as ultimate arbiter of the use of force and guardian of international law shattered, perhaps beyond repair. It saw the flailing impotence, or fawning acquiescence, of once great powers in the face of America's will. It glimpsed the limits of democracy in the smug insouciance with which elected governments rejected the people's protests. This smoking mirror showed a world where reasoned argument, moral suasion, humanitarian imperatives and intense diplomatic lobbying were overwhelmed and swept aside by an insistence on brute military force. More than that, it revealed a world in which a state's sovereign rights counted for little - unless that state was America; in which truly global concerns such as poverty, education, health, environmental degradation, disease pandemics, the roots of terrorism and, yes, even nuclear weapons proliferation could be and were shunted to one side; and in which one man, the American president, could turn the planet inside out. Small wonder the likes of Jacques Chirac do not want to talk about it right now. It is all too galling, if not to say downright depressing. Apparently Tisdall's mirror didn't show any shame as a result of the revelation of the hellish life Iraqis had been living under Saddam. Tisdall's mirror didn't show him and others like him that they'd been arguing to leave millions of people under control of a government of sadists in a nation whose primary industry had become torture and mutilation of its own citizens. Tisdall apparently feels no shame about the fact that he argued then, and still argues, that it would have been better to let that continue. The abstract principle of "national sovereignty" and the concrete need to shackle American power are much more important to Tisdall, and if thousands of Iraqis must have their tongues cut out to serve those ends, so be it. Tisdall's mirror shows shame, but not shame because the march of events showed he'd been wrong, both intellectually and morally. He feels no shame when he reads of the brutality of the regime we just ended, which he defended and still defends. Rather, he feels shame because he failed to prevail, failed to prevent the war which freed the Iraqi people from 30 years of living a nightmare inconceivable to those of us who live in free nations. He cringes when he looks in his mirror because it shows him that he did not succeed in keeping the Iraqis locked in a national abattoir. Tisdall's mirror is peculiarly selective in what it reflects. Update: This is what Tisdall doesn't feel ashamed about. That's because Iraqis need "national sovereignty" more than they need ears. msnbc.com <<<<<< The link is to a story on the "Abu Earless" Brigade - thousands of Iraqis who had their ears cut off in 1994.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (16750)	5/6/2003 12:39:17 AM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 21614

Len is a fan of Mussolini. He's an idiot who takes a date and decides that everyone who has come to Israel since that date needs to leave. Yet, when it is pointed out that his predecessors in interest took the land upon which he squats from the Native Americans, he does a little dance, to ward off the Natives, a sort of Pee Pee Grasso dance.