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To: one_less who wrote (6115)	5/6/2003 12:30:36 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 7720

Your white middle class families aren't the middle class families I grew up with. I can't think of a single adult I knew who considered those as ideals or role models or the ideal. People don't laugh at normalcy. People only laugh at things that are out of the ordinary, out of the commonplace. If those shows had just depicted the ideal people were supposed to follow, they wouldn't have been funny. when little kids played cowboys and Indians on the reservations of the southwest they all wanted to be the cowboys. John Wayne et al, the Indian fighters, were even serving as their role model. And those shows were NOT comedies. Yes, Westerns WERE intended as the 20th century equivalent of medieval morality plays.

To: one_less who wrote (6115)	5/6/2003 6:35:59 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 7720

Christopher is prone to contrarianism, even when it flies in the face of reason<g>.....The idea that comedy cannot convey cultural norms is goofy. Much of the work of changing attitudes towards assertive, successful women, for example, occurred through the comedies of Tracy and Hepburn, such as "Woman of the Year" and "Adam's Rib". In the television show "MASH", Hawkeye is presented both as a comic figure, with foibles, and as a person to admire for his dedication to his patients and ability to get things done, and Colonel Potter is even more admired for his common sense and integrity........