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To: John Carragher who wrote (97550)	5/6/2003 6:41:14 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Labour suspends Galloway (Filed: 06/05/2003) I am sure this surprises no one here. George Galloway has been suspended from the Labour Party, its general secretary David Triesman has announced. Mr Triesman said the suspension, effective immediately, would remain in place "pending internal party investigations". Mr Galloway immediately hit back at the suspension, saying it was prejudicial to his libel action against the Daily Telegraph over allegations that he took money from Saddam Hussein's regime. "It is completely unjust," he said. Mr Galloway, who has been the MP for Glasgow Kelvin since 1987, learnt of his suspension in a letter from Mr Triesman today. The letter told him he was "suspended from holding office or representing the Party pending the outcome of internal party investigations. This suspension is effective forthwith". However, the Labour Party made it clear that Mr Galloway had not been suspended over the Telegraph's allegations but because of comments he made during the Iraq war. A spokesman said complaints had been received about an interview Mr Galloway gave to Abu Dhabi television on Mar 28 in which he "seemingly invited other Arab nations to fight against the British Army". In the same interview, Mr Galloway described Tony Blair and George Bush as "wolves", although it is understood that this remark is not at the centre of the complaints. There were further complaints about similar remarks in an interview Mr Galloway gave to the ITV News Channel on April 1. The spokesman said the comments had broken the party's rule 2a.8 by "bringing the Labour Party into disrepute by behaviour that is prejudicial or grossly detrimental to the party". He said the inquiry would be led by Chris Lennie, Labour's deputy general secretary, and that the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards would also to launch an investigation into Mr Galloway. He added that the Charity Commission may make further inquiries into the MP's dealings following its announcement two weeks ago that it would investigate the Mariam Appeal set up by Mr Galloway in 1998 to provide medical care for an Iraqi girl suffering from leukaemia. According to documents found by The Daily Telegraph in the Iraqi foreign ministry in Baghdad, Mr Galloway benefited from oil and food contracts worth up to £375,000 a year. He has denied the allegations and has said he will sue the newspaper. Mr Galloway said his suspension by Labour and the investigations by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner and Charity Commission were "extraordinarily carefully co-ordinated moves". He said the investigations threatened to stop him using "the proper legal channels" to clear his name by suing the Daily Telegraph and other newspapers. Mr Galloway said: "I have embarked upon a considerable legal undertaking to prove in court the falseness of the allegations against me. But this case will now run in parallel with a kind of kangaroo court." He added: "The suspension from the Labour Party after 35 years of membership is particularly hard to bear. It is tantamount to political exile." Earlier today, police announced that a man who threw two eggs at Mr Galloway during a May Day rally in Wallasey, Merseyside, would not face any charges. David Anson, 41, hurled the eggs at Mr Galloway during the rally yesterday. As he threw them, he shouted crude slogans about the MP's relationship with Saddam Hussein telegraph.co.uk

To: John Carragher who wrote (97550)	5/6/2003 6:46:58 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 281500

<<Getting passports for these Iraq officials, telling private conversations with our president to Iraq. etc... I just hope the French people do not have to suffer because of their stupid leaders...>> It's a trade off. Kiss their ass today to avoid any attacks while the power to attack builds.

To: John Carragher who wrote (97550)	5/6/2003 7:09:04 PM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

This sort of stuff really annoys me. I see in one of the Canada papers about looking at holding back on natural gas coming into USA as it is getting quite high in Canada and the people will not want the law of supply and demand to raise their costs next winter NAFTA doesn't allow holdbacks. Can't do that. And that's not what the article said. What the guy said was, if Canadian operators don't want a consumer revolt, then consumers must be allowed to buy forward. What NAFTA means, and most folk don't seem to get it, is North American commodities sell at world price - no special oil price for Texans or Albertans. The only exceptions are those negotiated into the original agreement - they don't include oil and gas. They do include, for instance, exceptions for Canadian and (dare I say it) US dairy producers. They are allowed subsidies and protection to a fare thee well. (What was the name of that sleazoid senator who shafted Bush at the start of his term - Senator Milkcan Jeffers?) I just hope the French people do not have to suffer because of their stupid leaders... Of course they'll suffer!! If in no other way than through higher taxes to subsidize food producers whose exports to US will will be curtailed. Actually, the EU is so crooked probably all taxpayers in Europe - including the British - will feel the bite. The right way to get even with Chirac is follow the right policies. Isolate France diplomatically as much as possible, pursue UN reform vigorously, and remove US tariffs and subsidies, US economy will grow and France's continue to wither behind its protectionism and demography - already some gigantic proportion of EU budget is spent subsidizing French farmers - France is already becoming isolated in the EU. The best revenge is living well. Marcos needs to go cut some more lumber. Advice. Don't argue with Marcos about the lumber thing. He does know his stuff. Remember, the weaker part of a realtionship must pay a lot more attention to the nature of the relation than the stronger.

To: John Carragher who wrote (97550)	5/7/2003 2:09:05 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

That's not something i would say, John ... my comments have been consistently specific to the one-way 'free trade' situation imposed on my province by the Bush II regime, back to the summer of 2001 when Dubya's Commerzwaffe put the jackboots to my neighbours ... what i don't know about other industries would fill volumes, ditto overall trade circumstances, none of it is relevant anyway to the indefensible actions of current US admin against some pretty decent people here and against home builders and buyers in the US to whom the tariffs are a sleazy backdoor consumption tax I can't see the article you posted, the Globe site gives my browser illegal operation, shuts it down ... 'neither advise nor submit to arbitrary measures' my arse [that's part of their masthead slogan on the dead-tree edition] You mention oil and gas .... interesting, that's a trade that in dollar figures far outweighs our forest products, yet does not provide near the employment to us ..... there is no particular advantage in pretending we have 'free trade' with the US, and shipping south all the cheap energy we can pump out of the ground, while their rulers are screwing us on forestry .... we can sell that oil to anybody, pump it into ships, take it to the japanese, the french, whomever, for this we don't need some phoney one-way 'free trade' If i did go out and cut some timber, an activity i thoroughly enjoy by the way, and i happen to hold a fair bit which i will cut one day in the distant future, your Great Hee-roe Dubya for whom less voted than did for Gore even though Nader split the electorate would have his minions whack me for twenty-seven per cent on my product, even though it would be clearly market wood, willing seller to willing buyer and all that, just like the pine lobby spiel goes, but it wouldn't matter, your doofus presidente du jour would simply strike at me because i am a british columbian .... you see, it's not what they say that counts, it's what they do, got to watch for the hypocrisy out of these types, John