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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Thomas M. who wrote (773)	5/7/2003 4:59:02 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Re: LOL! Actually, Betar is sort of like a Jewish version of the Hitler Youth. I agree... Actually, we might also think of the Likud party as the Zionist version of OAS, the infamous Pied-Noir terrorist outfit that destabilized France in 1960-62. The OAS was 80% physical violence (ie bombings and shootings) and 20% propaganda (through its ORO branch [ie Organisation Renseignement Opérations]) whereas the Likud has devised a reversed mix of 80% media control and only 20% physical violence (outside Israel, that is)... Israel's Likudniks have learnt a lot from the French debacle in Algeria, hence they know that the pivotal battleground deals with public opinion --preferably worldwide or, at least, US public opinion. Another mistake --from the Judeofascist viewpoint-- the Pieds Noirs committed in their fight against Native Algerians was their naive exposure of their terrorist strategy. In 1960/61/62, everybody was well aware that the OAS was routinely assassinating police inspectors (Mr Gavoury), pro-FLN sympathizers (Mr Locussol), and military officers (colonels, generals,...) not to mention the bombing of Arab cafés throughout Algeria, from Oran to Algiers to Bône... All the while, the psychological warfare waged by the OAS was rather primitive: they used to broadcast their own newscasts with clandestine radio emitters or scramble the official French TV in order to use the bandwidth for their own TV reports... Again, the major difference between the French-Algerian war and the current US/Mideast dynamics is that the Pieds Noirs were never able to get a sizable part of French opinion to side with them. General De Gaulle perfectly understood that and so did many other topsiders. For instance, after the Evian accords (that provided for Algeria's independence) in May 1962, a high-ranking French officer told De Gaulle and his ministers that the Pieds Noirs were basically a bunch of Fascist bums... who'd better remain in Algeria lest they inoculate their fascistic practices in Southern France. As I said, the US is undergoing a geopolitical ordeal that is the mirror image of 1960 France: instead of fighting the OAS/Likud head-on, the US establishment, for various reasons (racial, religious,...), panders to the Judeofascist cabal. Americans had better bear in mind that, at the end of the day, it's the US democracy itself that is at stake. When the Mideast shit hits the racial fan in the US.... Gus

To: Thomas M. who wrote (773)	5/7/2003 3:21:28 PM
From: Edscharp	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

Thomas, Unfortunately, Arab media publications are not well noted for their objectivity. Not only that this wasn't a 'news piece' you cited, it was an editorial. Just because they print it doesn't mean it's true. I did a skim-through of Al-Ahram. I found it slanted, distorted, opinionated, quick to pander to Arab nationalism and in some cases just plain wrong. Here's, for instance an interesting editorial from the April 3-9 issue weekly.ahram.org.eg "It is not true that Saddam Hussein was defying the United States or the United Nations. If anything, he was trying to avoid this war at any price." "The US is now speaking more soberly about the possibility that the war may drag on into the summer." April 10 - 16, 2003 weekly.ahram.org.eg "Saddam has managed to develop a strata of resistance which has remained steadfast throughout the intensive bombardment of their country." "Agence France Presse spoke to some Saudi Arabian nationals regarding their feelings on the war, quoting one man as saying, "what is happening is breaking my heart and trampling my dignity. The Iraqi people will never forgive us and we will never forgive ourselves for failing to help them...""

To: Thomas M. who wrote (773)	5/10/2003 5:02:55 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

OOoops! Correction to my post #777: OAS's ORO branch should be likened to Mossad, that is, an outfit aimed at collecting intelligence and selecting targets (opponents to Algérie Française). Actually, there were two other OAS branches that dealt with psychological warfare and propaganda, namely, AAP (Action Politique et Propagande) and OM (Organisation des Masses) Anyway, below is an accurate Command Chart of the OAS: perso.club-internet.fr (scroll down to the bottom of the page) Israel's Likud, as a legitimate political party, can be likened to the OM branch (Organization of the Masses); the Israel lobby in the US is somehow the Israeli sequel of the "OAS Metro" (ie OAS in Metropolitan France)... Gus