To: Bald Eagle who wrote (403600 ) 5/7/2003 2:20:10 PM From: TigerPaw Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670 The article implied that a patriarchal sexist honor system was widespread. They just brought up the Palestinians once in while in sort of a me too fashion. It's a rather transparent rhetorical trick. The article was full of signs you should have noticed.hundreds of women and girls are murdered in the Middle East by male family members. ..... The report defined neither the period in which these murders took place nor the exact circumstances. ..... "No one knows the magnitude, because no one has conducted a study," balouch.com library.cornell.edu In 1997, some 300 women were estimated to have been killed in the name of 'honour' in one province of Pakistan alone. Sometimes the actual motives are suspect.crescentlife.com "Honour killing was punishment for violating the honour codes but the tribes have subverted the custom of killing not for honour but to obtain the compensation that the tribal settlement awards to the aggrieved person", Nafisa Shah summarizes.38 In honour killings if both the kari and karo are killed, the matter ends; if only the kari is killed and the karo escapes -- as is often the case -- he has to compensate the affected man, for the damage to honour he inflicted, for the woman's worth who was killed and to have his own life spared. This scheme provides easy opportunities for the unscrupulous to make money, obtain a woman in supposed compensation or to conceal other crimes All, in all, the Palesinians seem to be among the most enlightened on this subject." The sense of the honor code in general and what is considered to violate it has evolved in recent years, according to Lisa Taraki. "Many infringements of the honor code are solved in other ways, such as through elopement or marriage." That sounds like any high school in New Orleans. TP