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To: GraceZ who wrote (883)	5/7/2003 8:11:37 PM
From: re3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 4905

<<<their health deteriorates, both mental and physical. You can only play so many rounds of golf. i can't accept this, it to me flies in the face of basic logic. a person rushes off to work ("get up in the morning get on the bus, get up in the morning like the rest of us") - Guess Who lyrics! , grabs a muffin and coffee for breakfast, a sandwich for lunch, no time for anything better, half the time skips lunch because there is too much work to get down, so that they don't even get to walk to the cafeteria never mind walk around the block. Is that healthy ? the person who retires can take their time with everything, do things properly, make a salad for lunch instead of living in fast food nation. sure, they will be bored from time to time but i can tell you, i've only played golf twice in my life, will never do that silly game again, and i manage on my time off okay. the preoccupation with retirement is often because, really, what is portrayed in the Dilbert cartoons is funny in the paper, but, hey, the stupidity is real for people...i cannot imagine very many people really liking being on the wrong side of office politics...what could possibly be rewarding about having a difficult boss ?

To: GraceZ who wrote (883)	5/7/2003 11:12:42 PM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 4905

<I see lots of examples where people retire and then their health deteriorates, both mental and physical. You can only play so many rounds of golf.> I think it depends on what one calls 'retirement', and the intention behind it..., sitting at the pool and playing golf and not growing vs following a dream [maybe it IS golf!], art, spiritual awakening, or teaching, writting or helping at the hospital. IMO it all depends on the person and the intention... one can keep grinding away at the company she built in a very fearful negative manner just like the retirement you envision, and perhaps just like she lived her life, running off with all her energy to build some empire while her kids sit neglected and end up in therapy... There are plenty of ridiculously successful entrpeneural people that look in the mirror in horror at some point in old age at their life. "Building value, real wealth, what ever you want to call it is all meaninless unless your including more than the material. You cannot sit judgement based on an action alone, it is what's behind it. DAK

To: GraceZ who wrote (883)	5/8/2003 2:34:26 PM
From: benwood	Respond to of 4905

"There [are] an infinite number of things more worthwhile then simply managing ones money" There are many things more worthwhile in terms of spirituality, feeling fulfilled, yada yada, but obviously you don't even believe this to be true or you wouldn't be here. I would never manage money if this was on the bottom of an infinite list. Even most street people manage their begging "earnings" to some degree. I view money as an enabler for other things I want to do in my life, like hobbies, travel, and feeling secure to name a few. Managing my money is important to me because it allows me maximize the amount of time I can spend on those activities, and it allows me to provide opportunities for my family such as music lessons which otherwise I might need to skip (like my family of origin did). I don't spend a lot of time at it, though -- I prioritize managing money by limiting my investment of time and energy. Enough is enough! Then time to enjoy family life and reading & stuff. I think there are perhaps 100 million people out there in North American alone whose lives would be enhanced if they upped the "worthwhile-ness" of managing money from 0, as you suggested, to something higher than looking for the line in their credit card statement that says "Minimum Payment Due Now."