To: elmatador who wrote (24939 ) 5/8/2003 7:42:46 AM From: 49thMIMOMander Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857 Who would realistically not be a little careful with MSFT?? Considering MSFT's regular and original habits, tactics and track record?? As well as the bloathing products, motor-hood welded closed, secrete sauces, bugs, etc special features inside. Usually it is difficult enough to get something working just by itself and to interface to a windows system, worse if some features are embedded and unpredictable to make it even worse. It is anyway only some months since MSFT made their own developer's site incompatible with both Netscape and Opera, impossible to uninstall the latest mediaplayer,etc,etc.. Not to forget regular security in terms of viruses, backdoors, passwords, e-mail, bank accounts, SIM cards,etc,etc... additionally with backdoors through Bluetooth. (and the still disastrous, unsafe, unstable memory-handling of wincrash) Some of the reasons the telecom operators and manufacturers already in 1995 decided to concentrate on a operating system and GUI which would not even be attackable through Wall Street. Telecom operators, banks, etc have a lot of experience in how to not handle important real-time system which deal with lots of cash, customers and traffic, and now it is additionally a question of not having to set up 24-hour service for the customers. That is, there is enough of demanding, difficult stuff to implement, upgrade, improve,etc without having to additionally play cat and mouse games without access to actual source code and functional debuggers, no error logging, at least a running on a system designed to be fail-safe. WinCrash is still best suited for applications which only communicate through some standardized, third party interfaces, cables to some other more relieable systems, additionally well isolated by other small, exchangable, third party embedded systems. Additionally important, vital information should not be stored on a WinCrash-reformat-reinstall system as incremental backups are kind of unsupported. Ilmarinen Not that MSFT does not try, they have been working on it ever since they managed to sucessfully mess up OS2 and even admitted WinME and WinCE were a bad but desperate, strategic mistakes. However, there is always the hope born by the promise of the next yearly version.