To: limtex who wrote (128806 ) 5/8/2003 2:50:50 PM From: Stock Farmer Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472 limtex, the issue is that the price anticipates more products actually out there selling than are actually out there selling. The business is doing very well. The price is ahead of the business. And even though the business is growing, it is not growing as fast as the price anticipates. The emergence of competitors into the space simultaneously validates the expectations that the market has of the value of the space, but then diminishes the value of that space to Qualcomm shareholders by the amount that the competitors are expected to attract. So it is a two edged sword. I do not believe that the downward drift in Qualcomm is due to any sort of concerted attack on the price. Actually, I believe that the run up from $23 to $40 was due to a concerted lofting of the price - if not intentional then at least consequential to some very optimistic views on worldwide wireless. My comments on this thread for the last few years have been somewhat consistent: not that the market isn't there, but that the value to Qualcomm shareholders is being over-estimated. We don't call it the bleeding edge for nothing. Early innovators do not always capture the value. For technologies that take longer than patent lifespans to reach full adoption (like CDMA, it appears), it is often the followers who achieve far greater economic returns because they have an easier time following the footsteps of the trail-blazers. Look at RCA. For example. As for TI selling CDMA chips and "why give them a license in the first place?" Because TI had something that QCOM needed. And TI's bargaining strength was obviously enough to extract a royalty-free license. Patent poker is like that. Just because I hold a patent doesn't mean it will ever be worth something. Royalties depend on the relative bargaining strength of the patent portfolios with respect to each other, not on the number of patents or even the breadth of coverage. What this means is that Qualcomm's most profitable (by dollars, not by margin) division is going to face competition. This is not good news, no matter which way you spin it. John