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To: RealMuLan who wrote (239756)	5/9/2003 7:29:18 AM
From: Oblomov	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

LOL... Goldwater was very different from Reagan and GWB. There are many type of conservatives, and not all of them even desire an assault on 20th century welfare socialism (called "liberalism" by Greider), or eighteenth century liberalism, for that matter. The only fire that Goldwater lit was the fire of possibility: that it was possible to oppose the consensus ideology represented by Johnson's Great Society. Greider simply sets up a straw man and knocks it down. He implies that nothing more that "peevish resentments" would animate a desire to repeal Social Security or the income tax. I would be willing to recommend a few books that would give you a counterpoint to Greider's history of the Twentieth Century, if you are interested. As for rolling back the Twentieth Century, I would point out that the same century that brought social welfare programs to the US also brought genocide and mass purges to Europe and Asia, all in the name of greater good, total revolution, etc. Like it or not, they were part of the same movement, even though some good may have been achieved by social service programs in the US.