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To: Saturn V who wrote (174433)	5/8/2003 8:34:39 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 186894

RE:"So why are Carl and McMannis not mouthing off on the Cisco and Microsoft boards ? The only possibility is that either they are superdumb, or they just want to make a spectacle of themselves, and this is only way they can do it." You're right, Microsoft and Cisco are doing it too so it's OK...lol I know it's not just Intel. I see Grasso of the NYSE has got a nice little $80-$100 dollar retirement package. Not much we can do about that but that doesn't stop the public from being madder than hell at that. E-mails by the thousands today at CNBC.

To: Saturn V who wrote (174433)	5/8/2003 9:24:49 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Saturn, Nothing ridiculous about it. Do you think Andy Bryant should have been given > 1.3 million options in 2002? Steve

To: Saturn V who wrote (174433)	5/12/2003 3:22:20 PM
From: rkral	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

OT ... Saturn V, re "Black- Scholes is a silly system for computing the cost to the company. It is more appropriate for the value to the employee, but that is not the issue. If Black-Scholes is adopted I shall discount that and use the dilution method, which is more appropriate." The FASB Statement of Financial Standard No. 123, "Accounting for Stock-Based Compensation", only provides for an "intrinsic value method" and a "fair value method" of option expensing, AFAIK. Perhaps you can tell me which paragraphs describe the "dilution method". Link to an electronic copy is fasb.org. Regards, Ron