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To: JohnM who wrote (752)	5/9/2003 1:08:03 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 794229

How about the line that taxes, if well spent (yeah, I know, big if) make for a better social order which makes life better for all of us. Yep. "I am from the Government and I am here to help you." I read the piece you posted from the "Nation" about the rise of the right, and how the left had lost, and tried to get a handle on how to respond to it. Never came up with one. My position is that having the Government install social programs has failed, and your position is that they were not run right. I think that the nature of the Government is such that nobody can run these programs "right". The temptation to do it wrong is just too strong. But, the ideological discussion on this will not create any light, as we both know. I have believed for a long time that any solution to the failure of Government programs had to include Tort reform to stop the Lawyers from suing the Government so much, Union reform to allow administrators to have more freedom to change, hire, and fire, and "Bratton" style accountability to improve the system and get rid of incompetent administrators. The Republicans realize that the twin pillars that support the Democrats are the Public Unions and the Lawyers. So they are looking at accomplishing my first two goals as a way to cut into the Democrats base. That kills two birds with one stone.

To: JohnM who wrote (752)	5/9/2003 8:32:17 PM
From: Condor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794229

Neither of us is terribly knowledgeable here but it shouldn't keep us from beating up on one another in our usual fashion. LOL...That's the spirit John! <GGG>