To: GST who wrote (157120 ) 5/10/2003 2:51:43 PM From: Oeconomicus Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684 Hey, GST. Guess who said this:The majority of pacifists either belong to obscure religious sects or are simply humanitarians who object to the taking of life and prefer not to follow their thoughts beyond that point. But there is a minority of intellectual pacifists whose real though unadmitted motive appears to be hatred of western democracy and admiration of totalitarianism. Pacifist propaganda usually boils down to saying that one side is as bad as the other, but if one looks closely at the writings of younger intellectual pacifists, one finds that they do not by any means express impartial disapproval but are directed almost entirely against Britain and the United States. I'll give you a hint. He described pacifism as a form of "transferred nationalism" and found it frequently allied with a "negative nationalism" of his time - "Anglophobia." You could easily substitute American or the US for any mention of English or Britain. Just update the names and places.... English left-wing intellectuals did not, of course, actually want the Germans or Japanese to win the war, but many of them could not help getting a certain kick out of seeing their own country humiliated , and wanted to feel that the final victory would be due to Russia, or perhaps America, and not to Britain. In foreign politics many intellectuals follow the principle that any faction backed by Britain must be in the wrong. As a result, "enlightened" opinion is quite largely a mirror-image of Conservative policy. Lastly, it's like he knew you - yes, it was a mobile bio-weapons lab.Since nothing is ever quite proved or disproved, the most unmistakable fact can be impudently denied . Yes, you must be a reincarnation of someone he heard more than a half century ago:The average intellectual of the Left believed, for instance, that the war was lost in 1940, that the Germans were bound to overrun Egypt in 1942, that the Japanese would never be driven out of the lands they had conquered, and that the Anglo-American bombing offensive was making no impression on Germany. He could believe these things because his hatred for the British ruling class forbade him to admit that British plans could succeed.