To: one_less who wrote (1221 ) 5/13/2003 2:22:06 PM From: Raymond Duray Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773 JotW, Can you help me out here. You said: That is a pretty juicy article but.... I find it flawed. To what article are you referring? My post referred to Molly Ivin's "Shrub". A book of nearly 200 pages. amazon.com ******** Re: The military was dismantling the Viet Nam War effort in 1972. They weren't interested in sending anyone new to the region. Well, not the coke-head son of a Congressman anyway. But please read some real history sometime. The aerial campaign was hardly winding down in 1972. There was a tremendous amount of profit still to be made by hurling exceptional tonnages of ordnance from military aircraft onto villages throughout Viet Nam, Cambodia and Laos. ********** Re: Not successful in business you say? hmmmm...wish I had his bank roll. You miss the point entirely. Not surprising I guess. What I clearly stated was that Bush made money by influence peddling, not by actually effectively finding oil & gas or engaging in what normally passed for being a success in the awl patch. Bush was engaged in something that is a corrupt practice most qualified business observers disparagingly label as "crony capitalism". It helped ruin Indonesia's economy, and it's well on the way to doing the same in the U.S. ********* Re: "He's created a horrible culture of fear and naked militarism while in the White House." This is a good point. Not that I think Bush himself has done this or is capable of it, but I worry that we may be headed in that direction. Finally, some glimmer that you are beginning to get a clue. After the December, 2000 coup d'etat, conditions have worsened in the U.S. and the world by almost any scale you choose to use. Except for John Ashcroft's splendid record of shredding the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Oh, and the theft of 11% of the world's known crude oil reserves. That was quite the excellent bit of war plunder that King George secured for his bribers and coterie of cronies. Cheerio!