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To: re3 who wrote (157279)	5/15/2003 2:05:27 PM
From: Victor Lazlo	Respond to of 164687

ah yes, life for women under Saddam, the salad days... "Nidal Shaikh Shallal related some of the ways Iraqi women have suffered at the hands of Saddam. "The Iraqi woman has lost her loved ones — husbands, brothers and fathers," Shallal said. "The Iraqi woman has endured torture, murder, confinement, execution, and banishment, just like others in Iraqi society at the hands of Saddam Hussein's criminal gang." "The heads of many women have been publicly cut off in the streets under the pretext of being liars, while in fact they mostly belonged to families opposing the Iraqi regime. Women, especially dissident women, have been raped by members of Saddam Hussein's gang ... The wives of dissidents have been either killed or tortured in front of their husbands in order to obtain confessions from their husbands . . . Women have been kidnapped as they walk in the streets by members of the gangs of Uday and Qusay [Saddam’s sons] and then raped," Shallal said. usinfo.state.gov

To: re3 who wrote (157279)	5/15/2003 2:11:58 PM
From: Victor Lazlo	Respond to of 164687

<<americans are fascinated by Cuba, they seem to think about it an awful lot...tell me, what was Cuba like for the average impoverished person before Castro took over ? >> For the sugar farmers anyway, it was better. Castro has been an environmental nightmare for Cuba. One of the results: He basically exported not sugar, but the whole sugar industry itself. And along with it, a lot of the livelihoods of ordinary Cubans. Obviously farm work in Cuba was never a great career pursuit. But it's almost gone these days. Moreover, Castro became almost completely dependent on cash aid from the old Soviet Union, to the tune of $3.5 billion/year. A ton of moola for a small country. But that's gone now.