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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (406980)5/17/2003 8:50:53 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
what do you think about the liberals turning on the liberals:

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SUSAN ESTRICH

FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003, AND THEREAFTER

The Clintons are back.

Sidney Blumenthal -- much-hated former Clinton aide, ethically challenged former journalist -- $850,000 advance in hand, has a new book out on May 20, attacking everyone who ever attacked him or the Clintons, rehearsing once again the old right-wing conspiracy, every attack on them, answered. The right wing conspiracy revived, answered, again.

Hillary's book is next.

Could someone please tell these people to shut up?

The Democrats might have a chance of electing a new president if they could get the last one, and his defenders, to clear the stage. It doesn't matter if they're right or wrong. They should be history.

The Clintons suck up every bit of the available air. Nothing is left for anyone else. They are big, too big. That's the problem.

The 2004 candidates need a chance to get some attention, to rise to Clinton's level, which they'll never do so long as the likes of Sidney Blumenthal are playing into the hands of conservatives in insisting on debating the scandals of the 1990s.

Don't get me wrong. No one spent more time defending Bill Clinton than I did. Too much, according to most of my friends. But in a constitutional crisis, there was no choice. Enough is enough.

There's no excuse for a grown man to have an affair with an intern, whether his name is Bill Clinton or Jack Kennedy. What the former president did was wrong.

It's bad enough that Fox has given Monica Lewinsky a talk show. Of all the hundreds of women who could help find Mr. Personality, the last one on earth who's earned the right to do it is the Queen of Blow Jobs of the 1990s.

The Republicans shouldn't have impeached him for it, but he shouldn't have given them the ammunition. And we shouldn't still be discussing it.

Why are we? Or, to put it more accurately, why are they?

Not because it serves the interests of Democrats of the future.

It doesn't help Howard Dean, or John Kerry, or Dick Gephardt.

It makes George W. Bush look good.

It gets Sidney on TV shows. If the issue is ethics, no one has less than Sidney Blumenthal. He used to call me, during the Dukakis campaign, which I was running and he was supposed to be covering, to offer covert advice, which if accepted might result in better coverage. Much later, when I criticized him, he tried to get me in trouble with my editors. All the while, I was defending his boss. That's Sidney. He's Hillary's best friend. No wonder Republicans are delighted to see his return to the spotlight.

It raises money for their causes.

The Bill and Bob (Dole) show on CBS has proven to be a colossal bore. The ratings have fallen. Is anyone getting the message? I fear not.

Let's not mince words.

Hillary Clinton is never going to be president of the United States. There is no more divisive figure in the Democratic Party, much less the country, than the former first lady. And I like her. But many women don't. Even Democratic women. Even working women. Not to mention non-working, independent, non-political women. She can be a great senator. She's smart, hard working and effective. She is much respected among her peers.

But the more people talk about her as a future president, the more money Republicans raise. The more people talk about her as a future president, the less attention the current candidates, who might win, receive.

Revisiting the scandals of the past does no service to the Democrats of the future.

Bill Clinton is a brilliant man. But the more attention he gets, the more the Democrats of the future suffer. He would be the first to say this, if it weren't about him.

Enough with the Clintons. Please. Not for the sake of the Republicans. But for the Democrats ...



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (406980)5/17/2003 8:53:23 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Do you think Clinton or Kennedy had the most interns??

The Associated Press
Friday, May 16, 2003; 3:33 PM

NEW YORK - The author who revealed former President John F. Kennedy's affair with a 19-year-old intern said Friday that the media's interest in the liaison underscores an extraordinary change in American culture.

"In the 1960s, John Kennedy was not going to be found out," author Robert Dallek said Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America."

"Lots of journalists, reporters, knew about the womanizing, and if they didn't they had strong suspicions, but they weren't going to publish it in their newspapers. It just was not part of the culture of the times," Dallek said. "Now, of course, it's so different."

Kennedy is known to have had numerous extramarital liaisons, but "An Unfinished Life," Dallek's biography published this week, contains the first report of an affair with an intern.

Dallek said he learned of the affair from a 1964 oral history interview with White House aide Barbara Gamarekian, whose account was sealed until recently. Gamarekian recalled only the intern's first name, Mimi.

On Thursday the Daily News reported that Marion "Mimi" Fahnestock, a 60-year-old church administrator, was the woman behind the name.

Fahnestock declined to discuss her relationship with Kennedy, but she handed out a brief statement Thursday to journalists waiting outside her Upper East Side apartment building.

"From June 1962 to November 1963, I was involved in a sexual relationship with President Kennedy," the statement said. "For the last 41 years, it is a subject I have not discussed."

Fahnestock - whose maiden name was Beardsley - was awarded a White House internship in 1962, a year after she caught the president's eye during a trip to Washington to interview first lady Jacqueline Kennedy for her school newspaper. She attended Miss Porter's School in Farmington, Conn., Jacqueline Kennedy's alma mater.

The affair lasted for 17 months, ending two months after Fahnestock became engaged to investment banker Anthony Fahnestock, and just weeks before Kennedy was assassinated.

She and Anthony Fahnestock married in January 1964 and later divorced. He died in 1993. She now works as an administrator at the Fifth Avenue Presbyterian Church.

washingtonpost.com



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (406980)5/19/2003 10:51:22 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 769670
 
Well, that is an advantage......