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Technology Stocks : Siebel Systems (SEBL) - strong buy? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (6691)	5/18/2003 8:14:11 PM
From: Uncle Frank	Respond to of 6974

>> all the competition is arrogant also... It's something every successful corporation is accused of. I think the actual mixture is one part pride, one part confidence, and 1 part hubris. Hard to be humble when you kicking the competitions' butts. >> after being relentlessly hammered on SI about these options issues and their inherent "costs"... I've noticed that you let the bearboyz use you for target practice on the Cisco thread, Lizzie. Can't figure out why, but I admire the way you state and stick to your convictions. uf

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (6691)	5/18/2003 8:52:49 PM
From: hueyone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6974

I am old fashioned Lizzie. I think performance has something to do with the company making a good earnings return for shareholders independent of equity financing, and independent of a hyped or depressed share price. I don't believe SEBL has done well in this regard. Explanation of figures in table: #reply-18770776 In Millions After Tax S&P Income Core Fisc Yr GAAP Inc. Op Exp w/Op Exp Earnings 1995 .317 .02 .297 N/A 1996 12.9 3.3 9.6 N/A 1997 (1.2) 12.7 (13.9) N/A 1998 41.5 41.2 .3 N/A 1999 56.5 78.2 (21.7) N/A 2000 123.0 286.0 (163.0) N/A 2001 254.6 807.7 (553.0) -467.0 2002 (35.7) 1,046.2 (1,081.9) -1,083.0 Totals, 1995-2002: After Tax S&P Income Core Earnings GAAP Inc. Op Exp w/Op Exp 01 and 02 452 Mill 2.275 Bill (1.823 Bill) (1.55 Bill) Expalanation of S&P Core Earnings: www2.standardandpoors.com JMO, Huey