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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (33908)	5/19/2003 1:38:38 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

"money goes to the infrastructure and personal salaries of the offices and workers required to operate the welfare system." For every dollar that reaches the welfare recipient, how much is sucked by the ones who operate the system. It comes to a point that welfare recipients should be there for the sake of the existency of the welfare system. DJ can tell you how much the system sucks from the taxpayer in Germany. This is what I call state-distributivims. That is what killed Argentina and in Brazil Lula is trying hard to reform or Brazil goes down the drain.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (33908)	5/19/2003 12:59:54 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Respond to of 74559

Hawk has knee-jerk reactionary tendencies...give him his space. len

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (33908)	5/19/2003 2:06:41 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

but let me slap you upside the head here. Social Security is one of the best administered program in the nation. If you compare its administrative burden to the alternatives, it is a model of efficiency and honesty. Actually, the SS system is one of the primary causes of the tremendous budget deficit we currently have.. Surplus funds go into the SSTF, where that cash is exchanged for T-bill IOUs and the cash applied to the general budget and spent. Hawk