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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (24419)	5/20/2003 2:09:33 AM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 25898

LOL! Thanks for the laughs. But now those two countries don't want to lift those sanctions anymore. For good reason: <<< Yet the way that the sanctions work is not the way they used to. The Sanctions Committee automatically approves most imports without any requirement for deliberation. Furthermore, the biggest bureaucratic delays were created by deliberate U.S. understaffing, so that there were never enough people to review all the proposed contracts (see Joy Gordon's article "Cool War: Economic Sanctions as a Weapon of Mass Destruction, Harper's, November 2002). Finally, all members of the Security Council have indicated willingness to cooperate in expediting the release of all goods required for immediate needs. >>> alternet.org Tom

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (24419)	5/20/2003 8:54:48 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

Hawkmoon, Re: Lest you conveniently attempt to block the reality, it was the US and UK who led the efforts to contain, and possibly overthrow Saddam, but who constantly were constrained themselves by their "allies" who wanted the UNSC to work their "magic".. Let's start in 1959. The CIA contacted a street thug named Saddam Hussein in Baghdad with a list of leftists and communist sympathizers that the CIA wanted eliminated. Hussein's first "bag job" for the Agency. 1963, Hussein continues to be supported by the CIA, to the extent that the Agency pays for Hussein's apartment via a third party. After a failed coup attempt, the CIA pays for an apartment for Saddam Hussein while in exile in Beirut. Continuing throughout the 1960's and 1970's, Hussein continues to be fed information on assassination targets of the CIA and receives financial backing. 1980's -- the U.S. provides precursor chemicals, biowarfare plant and equipment, technical support, targetting support against Iran and food aid for a job well done. Furthermore, the Reagan Administration eliminates Iraq from a list of terrorist nations, ending boycotts on war materials during the Iran-Iraq war. The fact is, Hussein was largely tolerated and encouraged by the CIA and the Republican administrations since 1980. OTOH, I've always been in the camp that wanted him eliminated. Unfortunately, the U.S. government found him to be just too useful to eliminate.