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Politics : Stockman Scott's Political Debate Porch -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: elpolvo who wrote (19354)	5/20/2003 6:31:31 PM
From: Mannie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

werdball!

To: elpolvo who wrote (19354)	5/20/2003 8:39:12 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

Only facts & reality make my POV correct in this case. It's that simple. To me the lies & intentional misrepresentations, the exaggerated projections of all things spun negative, the slant, bias & slander that I've witnessed here is unprecedented. Given it has increased dramatically since 9/11 & often makes excuses for terrorists & brutal dictators is sickening because it is mostly partisan politics. The spin & obfuscation in response to my posts is all too obvious. No doubt you & all your peers will see what you want to see & believe what you want to believe, regardless of the facts, as usual. Your delusion & denial is stunning, albeit predictable given how partisan your political beliefs are. Oh, and while you & your peers high five each other, consider this is only a fraction of what this recent discussion has been about..... "i've seen plenty of rational, philosophical, logical and factual rebuttals" Show me the 500,000+ casualties that Scott, Clappy & others claimed would happen & preemptively blamed Bush for. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the protracted war with Iraq that Scott, Clappy & others warned us of & preemptively blamed Bush. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the projected huge (hundreds of billions) costs of the war with Iraq that Scott, Clappy & others warned us of & preemptively blamed Bush. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the street to street fighting for months on end throughout Iraq that would inflict countless US casualties & inocent Iraqi citizens as well that Scott, Clappy & others warned us of & preemptively blamed Bush. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the huge increase in terrorism that would immediately result by going to war with Iraq that Scott, Clappy & others warned us of & preemptively blamed Bush. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the huge conflagration in the Middle East that would immediately ensue when the war with Iraq began that Scott, Clappy & others warned us of & preemptively blamed Bush. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the huge uprising in the Arab Street that was certain to occur as soon as the first shots of the war with Iraq were fired that Scott, Clappy & others warned us of & preemptively blamed Bush. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the failed diplomacy prior to the war that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & preemptively blamed Bush for. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the rush to war that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & preemptively blamed Bush for (is more than 12 years a rush?). Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the UN having the moral high ground prior to the war that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & preemptively blamed Bush for failing to listen to countries like France, Germany, Russia, China, etc., (when we now know they had considerable financial ties, helped Iraq with illegal arms deals, WMD materials, shared classified info, while they took political bribes, ET AL). Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the fair, balanced, accurate & honest viewpoints that Scott, Clappy & others consistently presented. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the unilateral & preemptive war that Scott, Clappy & others claimed would happen & preemptively blamed Bush for. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the US going it alone against Iraq that Scott, Clappy & others claimed would happen & preemptively blamed Bush for. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts that the war against Iraq wasn't part of the war against terrorism that Scott, Clappy & others claimed & preemptively blamed Bush for. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about how Bush has stampeded America into conflict with lies & deceit that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about this war being about Bush getting himself re-elected that Scott, Clappy & others claimed & blamed Bush for. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the US getting bogged down in the war against Iraq that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & blamed Bush/Rumsfeld. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the US troops starving & dying of thirst due to overextended supply lines that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & blamed Bush/Rumsfeld. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the poor war planning that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & blamed Bush/Rumsfeld. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the war plan completely failing in the war against Iraq that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & blamed Bush/Rumsfeld. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me the facts about the war against Iraq being US Imperialism plan that Scott, Clappy & others claimed was happening & blamed Bush/Rumsfeld. Show me where they admitted how horrifically wrong they were on this point. Show me where free speech encompasses & encourages the relentless use of slander, intentional lies & misrepresentations & outrageous distortions? Etc., etc., etc.